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This is the reason I do not agree with the death penalty. We as a nation/state murdered an innocent human being in the prime of his life. That cannot be undone. I do not think there is an acceptable loss. For those that do, feel free to step up to the plate. I doubt there are any takers. I bet no one will like it when it is they or a loved one strapped on the gurney either.

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...and if this sorry piece of **** had been executed the first time he had an appointment with the chair, my wife's close friend Colleen Reed would still be here.

Kenneth Mc Duff

The death penalty limits recidivism. It should be used wisely.

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Ban the death penalty now. As much as I b*tch about my city's dearest mayor, he has this to say on the death penalty (NY hasn't used it for 50 years). I'm 100% in agreement with the man on that count:

Mike Bloomberg on Death Penalty - YouTube

And I hope the spirits of Carlos DeLuna and Cameron Willingham will haunt Texas' executioner for the rest of their life. It's interesting that more than a few hangmen have spoken out against the death penalty after they retired.

How is killing innocent people "good enough?" At least two wrongful executions in Texas. About 50% of the people on Illinois' death row were found to have unsafe convictions before Ryan cleared death row. How many innocent people do we have to murder before we get that the death penalty is irrevocable ... and wrong?

In a perfect world, I'd support the death penalty in particularly heinous cases. However, in this very imperfect world, I don't trust our justice system enough to want it killing people.

How do you use it wisely? The assumption is that you only execute the guilty. The problem is when wise people make a mistake. Was Mr Lunas death an acceptable loss? Had McDuff been kept in jail that would have eliminated his ability to murder also. Mr Luna is dead. He did not murder anyone. That is an unacceptable loss as far as I am concerned.

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- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

while I do not agree with the death penalty, I do believe the court system for the most part works with a few exceptions that are very unfortunate.

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Not meant to be rude but "unfortunate"? Is that the term you would use if you or a loved one were wrongly executed? How many "unfortunate" instances are acceptable in your opinion?

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- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
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Theres no other way to put it. It is very unfortunate for these things to happen. Can you think of a way for this to absolutely not happen?

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Abolish the death penalty -- better to keep someone in prison for 10-15 years and release them when new evidence comes out, with a healthy compensation. OK, it's not absolute since someone could still die in jail, but it's better than Texas's current system. And when has the death penalty brought back a murder victim?

The focus of the criminal law system should be rehabilitation of people who can be rehabilitated, and separation from the community of those who can't. Vengeance should be way down on the list of considerations.

I'm all for repeal of the death penalty. I don't know if I'd rather be dead or in prison for 20 years though.

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Perhaps we have a misunderstanding. If by "unfortunate accident" you mean an execution, then the way to stop them is to abandon the death penalty. If you are referring to wrongful convictions, there is no way to eliminate that. We are human and mistakes will happen.

I think one way to help reduce it is to attach an certain amount of liability to the prosecutors and investigators. If it can be shown that negligence or incompetence was present in the investigation then those involved should face a penalty. If all reasonable effort was made to ensure a fair trial and an error was made, you do what you can to make the wrong as right was it can be made and make sure it does not happen again.

There is no way to fix dead.

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- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

And if we're really going to have the death penalty, if the negligence is malicious or shortcuts are taken, the officials involved should face the death penalty. Administered by the wrongfully executed victim's family, by whatever method they choose.

Murder does not justify murder.

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- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

I agree. Which is why I don't support the death penalty. But IF a state chooses to cling to that relic, people who are willfully complicit in a wrongful execution (aka murder) should also be subject to execution. Fair is fair.

Why should a poor guy who stabs someone for $10 be subject to execution, but a prosecutor or investigator who cuts corners and is responsible for wrongful executions for the sake of their career not be? In both cases, it's basically murder for the sake of money.

I think someone said: "Capital punishment: thems without the capital gets the punishment."

Really? Based on what? I am not aware of any objective measure that says that the death penalty does anyone any good. It is expensive, ineffective at deterring crime, racially discriminatory, and, most important, includes my government killing people unnecessarily. Some may want revenge and I suppose the death penalty delivers that. That doesn't count for anything in my book. Your mileage may vary.