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...as the turret slowly turns...

Don't turn back on him! I'll keep taking the bullets from "whoever might be sending them." In fact I'll take a bullet for layback ANY time!
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:26 PM
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The retirement and SS moneys I've paid. Beyond that, they "owe", as in to be obligated to a debt, nothing. This was easy.
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I am not trying to troll. Answer this question. How does a "rich" person paying more taxes effect you ?

This reminds me of my mother telling me to finish my plate because there are staring kids in Africa....

Um mom if I eat all this some kid in Africa is going to feel better?
I am not convinced that they are paying more. So far from the ones I have heard who have stated their tax rate (Romney and Buffet) I have paid more then both of them. They may be be paying more in raw amounts but I am paying more as a percentage. I do not like my taxes going towards helping companies make more money in the form of subsidies, tax breaks and the like. I do not like the idea that GE pays no taxes and I pay .. well you get the point.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:22 AM
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Government steps in to protect those who cannot protect themselves. I suppose this could mean different things for different people, but in general, I think we can all agree that the government should protect us from unscrupulous people who, by what they are doing in their own interests, hurt the interests of the public.
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Government steps in to protect those who cannot protect themselves. I suppose this could mean different things for different people, but in general, I think we can all agree that the government should protect us from unscrupulous people who, by what they are doing in their own interests, hurt the interests of the public.

Yes, in the case where someone is doing something ILLEGAL, you are absolutely correct.

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Old 06-01-2012, 07:34 AM
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I had that discussion with a guy a few years ago. We were at a coffee shop and there were several fellows there that were out of work.

So I asked each of them what they had that could contribute to a business. One had a pick-up and one had three lawnmowers. That afternoon they were in the lawn care business.

Another fellow I know started volunteering for several groups while he looked for a job. When he let everyone know he was out of work someone in one of the groups offered him one. They had seen him work and knew he could get things done.

One can be down, but as long as your health holds out you are never out.
......let me add......as long as you do not give in to PLOM disease. ( Poor Little Old Me)--self pity, I am the helpless victim. You are guaranteed opportunity; nothing more. People need to be educated to take advantage of situations, and not to be limited by them--or their own outlook.
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......let me add......as long as you do not give in to PLOM disease. ( Poor Little Old Me)--self pity, I am the helpless victim. You are guaranteed opportunity; nothing more. People need to be educated to take advantage of situations, and not to be limited by them--or their own outlook.

Absolutely correct. In the early part of my life, I had my financial back against the wall a few times. Willingness to work was the only weopon I had and it worked every time.
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Don't turn back on him! I'll keep taking the bullets from "whoever might be sending them." In fact I'll take a bullet for layback ANY time!

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Your a ######## , ###########. & a ######## , ###### , #####@!!!!

The gun laws over here are so tough I cant do any better. We have a very controlling left wing minority government !!!!


Thats about the best I can manage at 10.00 pm on a Friday night.
Yes we are finished for the day before you guys even get started !!

Opps Just re~read what you said Larry, Got mixed up! Thought you said 'from', not for !! My bad !!
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The only thing I feel the government owes the population down to the individual level is to be responsible and act in a responsible fashion. We seem to have drifted away from that over the many years.
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...as the turret slowly turns...
I have no fear from upstarts in decrepit Russian tanks in upstate NY !

2 dictators have fallen on their swords previously. .............


You may be better off going & playing tiddlywinks
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The only thing I feel the government owes the population down to the individual level is to be responsible and act in a responsible fashion. We seem to have drifted away from that over the many years.

Very accurate and very succinct!
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Larry,
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The gun laws over here are so tough I cant do any better. We have a very controlling left wing minority government !!!!


Thats about the best I can manage at 10.00 pm on a Friday night.
Yes we are finished for the day before you guys even get started !!

Yeah that's the way with you mates! Always one jump ahead of us.
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An egregious violation of the Peachparts TOU. Mods, please ban this member.
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