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Old 06-05-2012, 07:24 AM
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Well I have no issue with the decriminalization of weed. But it is not the Mayor's proposal it is the Gov. Cuomo's proposal. (I know you hate Bloomie but please get it right, SPD!)

The problem is , first they outlaw fatty foods, then huge sodas and now a joint or three is legal...but

WADDA WE GONNA DO WHEN WE GET THWE MUNCHIES?????

There is NO good Munchy food available in NYC!!!
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:31 AM
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Well I have no issue with the decriminalization of weed. But it is not the Mayor's proposal it is the Gov. Cuomo's proposal. (I know you hate Bloomie but please get it right, SPD!)

The problem is , first they outlaw fatty foods, then huge sodas and now a joint or three is legal...but

WADDA WE GONNA DO WHEN WE GET THWE MUNCHIES?????

There is NO good Munchy food available in NYC!!!



Catch 22!


Isn't it crazy that these dictators want to ban what is legal and legalize what is ILLEGAL?

Of course, there's a lot more money involved with illegal drugs than with a Big Gulp! That's often the key to these things, following the money!
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:37 AM
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No it all has to do with generating income for the state and city. Instead of a procedure that results in a dismissal or probation and no income to the city/state, we have a simple ticket with a $100 fine that 90% of the recipients will pay so they don't have a record.

Same with sugary soda and fatty foods. the seller gets a fine and has to pay which generates income for the city.

In the past 3 years the Traffic Cops have gone rampant with tickets for ANYTHING. knowing 70% of the people will not fight it and just pay up, guilty or not.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:51 AM
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No it all has to do with generating income for the state and city. Instead of a procedure that results in a dismissal or probation and no income to the city/state, we have a simple ticket with a $100 fine that 90% of the recipients will pay so they don't have a record.
Better for the city, better for the people since they don`t get a record. Seems like everyone wins.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:13 AM
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Isn't it crazy that these dictators want to ban what is legal and legalize what is ILLEGAL?

Of course, there's a lot more money involved with illegal drugs than with a Big Gulp! That's often the key to these things, following the money!
You are missing the point. The US government wastes millions of dollars trying to stamp out weed usage and maintain its illegality, when anyone in the country can find marijuana in about 20 minutes on a college campus or by driving around on a saturday afternoon in suburbia sniffing for that tell tale weed odor.

Its a completely ridiculous waste of government money, and marijuana should be legal. Prohibition didn't work, and the war on weed doesn't work either. Makes far more sense to concentrate on drugs that have negative effect other than making you lazy and hungry. IMO booze is far more destructive yet its legal.

Think of the economic boom that would take place if you could buy weed in any smoke shop and pay tax on it.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:55 AM
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You are missing the point. The US government wastes millions of dollars trying to stamp out weed usage and maintain its illegality, when anyone in the country can find marijuana in about 20 minutes on a college campus or by driving around on a saturday afternoon in suburbia sniffing for that tell tale weed odor.

Its a completely ridiculous waste of government money, and marijuana should be legal. Prohibition didn't work, and the war on weed doesn't work either. Makes far more sense to concentrate on drugs that have negative effect other than making you lazy and hungry. IMO booze is far more destructive yet its legal.

Think of the economic boom that would take place if you could buy weed in any smoke shop and pay tax on it.


Hmmm.... it appears that maybe I just learned something about you.

So since prohibition didn't work and we have some high number of alcoholics, that this justifies adding to that a bunch of pot heads with the munchies? Interesting logic.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:59 AM
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So since prohibition didn't work and we have some high number of alcoholics, that this justifies adding to that a bunch of pot heads with the munchies? Interesting logic.
Since when has pot prohibition stopped stoners from smoking weed? (Or alcohol prohibition stopped drunkards from hitting the sauce.)
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:06 AM
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Hmmm.... it appears that maybe I just learned something about you.

So since prohibition didn't work and we have some high number of alcoholics, that this justifies adding to that a bunch of pot heads with the munchies? Interesting logic.
amazing, you missed my point completely and im sure you suspect im a stoner now.

Actually, im frustrated at the amount of money wasted trying to stamp out something that is everywhere. How can you disagree with that? Unless you live a singularly insulated and sheltered existence, im sure you have encountered people smoking pot here and there. Maybe you didn't even know it. Id say personally, I come across someone smoking weed in their car in traffic once a week, and I smell it in the neighborhood about that much as well.

Do I like stoners? not really. Is it typical of stoners to get high and violent, jump in a car, drive erratically and kill a mother and child in a crosswalk? not really either. However, that IS typical of drunks.

With that logic, I have a bigger problem with drunks than stoners, and as a source of money wasted on trying to eliminate something so common, its a big one.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:37 AM
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amazing, you missed my point completely and im sure you suspect im a stoner now.

Actually, im frustrated at the amount of money wasted trying to stamp out something that is everywhere. How can you disagree with that? Unless you live a singularly insulated and sheltered existence, im sure you have encountered people smoking pot here and there. Maybe you didn't even know it. Id say personally, I come across someone smoking weed in their car in traffic once a week, and I smell it in the neighborhood about that much as well.

Do I like stoners? not really. Is it typical of stoners to get high and violent, jump in a car, drive erratically and kill a mother and child in a crosswalk? not really either. However, that IS typical of drunks.

With that logic, I have a bigger problem with drunks than stoners, and as a source of money wasted on trying to eliminate something so common, its a big one.

Okay Drop, I believe you. I apologize for the comment, but it did seem to explain some of your views.

Now to the response to your post:

Yes, I know that marijuana use is out of control. Guess what? I have no more approval for drinking than I do pot smoking. How in the world does the fact that alcohol causing so many problems, justify adding the pot smokers and THEIR problems to the list? I just can't follow that logic.

If the US gubmint had the balls to do anything about it, they would be stopping the drugs at the border. Sure I realize that there is pot grown in the US, but if it were stopped at the border, the home grown could probably be more easily eradicated than what's coming through our porous borders.

How about this? If we stopped it at the borders, we could stop alot of CRIME in the border towns as a side benefit. Stamping down the murder rate along our borders on both sides wouldn't be a bad thing would it?
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Yes, I know that marijuana use is out of control. Guess what? I have no more approval for drinking than I do pot smoking.
You don`t drink at all?
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:02 PM
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Okay Drop, I believe you. I apologize for the comment, but it did seem to explain some of your views.

Now to the response to your post:

Yes, I know that marijuana use is out of control. Guess what? I have no more approval for drinking than I do pot smoking. How in the world does the fact that alcohol causing so many problems, justify adding the pot smokers and THEIR problems to the list? I just can't follow that logic.

If the US gubmint had the balls to do anything about it, they would be stopping the drugs at the border. Sure I realize that there is pot grown in the US, but if it were stopped at the border, the home grown could probably be more easily eradicated than what's coming through our porous borders.

How about this? If we stopped it at the borders, we could stop alot of CRIME in the border towns as a side benefit. Stamping down the murder rate along our borders on both sides wouldn't be a bad thing would it?
Because its not "adding". People smoking pot in the US is already a fact of life.

IMO most of the border drug wars are over cocaine and other harder drugs.

I can list at least 5 people I personally know who grow marijuana in flower boxes or closets. The stuff is everywhere in the US. I even had a cop landlord who would smoke the confiscated stuff he took from college kids when he went home.

Its a ridiculous double standard, just a big waste of time. Better to regulate and tax it.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:01 PM
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amazing, you missed my point completely and im sure you suspect im a stoner now.

Actually, im frustrated at the amount of money wasted trying to stamp out something that is everywhere. How can you disagree with that? Unless you live a singularly insulated and sheltered existence, im sure you have encountered people smoking pot here and there. Maybe you didn't even know it. Id say personally, I come across someone smoking weed in their car in traffic once a week, and I smell it in the neighborhood about that much as well.

Do I like stoners? not really. Is it typical of stoners to get high and violent, jump in a car, drive erratically and kill a mother and child in a crosswalk? not really either. However, that IS typical of drunks.

With that logic, I have a bigger problem with drunks than stoners, and as a source of money wasted on trying to eliminate something so common, its a big one.
You should get together with MBBERG and have some beers--
he likes to reminisce about when he used to be a stoner--smoked a freight train boxcar full of ti stick---Oh yea and he ONLY wrode a bicycle all those yrs,
Then he'll tell ya about the 'dopers he got pop-d by speed dialin the pigs and following so he could see his own little episode of cops. he luv v's him some smugg satisfaction--Telling himself how much better that anyone else is--and then he'll probably get in his car buzzed--over the limit!
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You should get together with MBBERG and have some beers--
he likes to reminisce about when he used to be a stoner--smoked a freight train boxcar full of ti stick---Oh yea and he ONLY wrode a bicycle all those yrs,
Then he'll tell ya about the 'dopers he got pop-d by speed dialin the pigs and following so he could see his own little episode of cops. he luv v's him some smugg satisfaction--Telling himself how much better that anyone else is--and then he'll probably get in his car buzzed--over the limit!
The funny thing is I don't do any kind of anything, no drinking, smoking, hell, i don't even drink coffee. And I still think it should be legal.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:54 AM
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Well I have no issue with the decriminalization of weed. But it is not the Mayor's proposal it is the Gov. Cuomo's proposal. (I know you hate Bloomie but please get it right, SPD!)
Re-read my original post, please. I did mention the governor, not Bloomberg. As to Bloomberg, I don`t hate him -- just think he jumped the shark (repeatedly) in his third term.

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WADDA WE GONNA DO WHEN WE GET THWE MUNCHIES?????

There is NO good Munchy food available in NYC!!!
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