that is coming?

This is out of an article from autocarepro. Here we go.

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Link didn't work for me Jim.

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So you and engatwork are on a first name basis?

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Stupid. Automakers should move to R-744 (aka CO2) with a high-pressure sealed electric compressor. Basically non-toxic, CHEAP to replenish.

Good point Click. It might embarass him for me to do so.

I've known Jim via the forum for about 10 or 12 years and even spoke to him on the phone a long time ago.

If he would rather I not call him by his first name, I understand and will honor his request not to do so.

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Sounds more than reasonable to me.

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I will stick with propane. Thank you very much.

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Not yet.

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Briefly read about 744. Where are they using it sp?

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Article in the NYT this week about the increase in air conditioning in Asia and the adverse effect on the environment of the gases. It pointed out that Europeans use propane in their refrigerators (it called the gas a hydrocarbon--not propane) and suggested that it would be good to use hydrocarbons in auto AC.

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It would be good to use hydrocarbon refrigerants. They are cheaper and perform better. Unfortunately Dupont has the market cornered and hydrocarbon refrigerants dont have a prayer.

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90 300TE 4-M
Turbo 103, T3/T04E 50 trim
T04B cover .60 AR
Stage 3 turbine .63 AR
A2W I/C, 40 LB/HR
MS2E, 60-2 Direct Coil Control
3" Exh, AEM W/B O2
Underdrive Alt. and P/S Pulleys,
Vented Rear Discs, .034 Booster.
3.07 diffs 1st Gear Start

90 300CE 104.980
Milled & ported head, 10.3:1 compression
197° intake cam w/20° advancer
Tuned CIS ECU
4° ignition advance
PCS TCM2000, built 722.6
600W networked suction fan
Sportline sway bars
V8 rear subframe, Quaife ATB 3.06 diff

While buying some parts at the local GM dealer a few days ago I was talking to the counter guy who said that GM was going to this soon, he had heard in 2013 cars but maybe it would be phased in like R-134 was over a few months.

He quoted some figures that he said might not be accurate, but were close. R-12 will break down, when released, in something like 500 days. R-134 takes about 160 days. The new stuff breaks down in the atmosphere in 11 days.

I do recall when R-134 came out there was a big cry about using Propane but the DOT refused to allow it since it created a fire hazard in an accident. Of course the automotive press pointed out that gasoline never presents a fire hazard in a accident, but the DOT did not see the humor.

The big hazard with propane is the damage it would do to Dupont's bottom line. Propane sells for about 1$ per LB. Yet somehow its in our best interest to use the 60$-90$ per LB stuff. Considering my car holds about 100 LBS of gasoline, 1 LB of hydrocarbon refrigerant is obviously the greater danger.

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90 300TE 4-M
Turbo 103, T3/T04E 50 trim
T04B cover .60 AR
Stage 3 turbine .63 AR
A2W I/C, 40 LB/HR
MS2E, 60-2 Direct Coil Control
3" Exh, AEM W/B O2
Underdrive Alt. and P/S Pulleys,
Vented Rear Discs, .034 Booster.
3.07 diffs 1st Gear Start

90 300CE 104.980
Milled & ported head, 10.3:1 compression
197° intake cam w/20° advancer
Tuned CIS ECU
4° ignition advance
PCS TCM2000, built 722.6
600W networked suction fan
Sportline sway bars
V8 rear subframe, Quaife ATB 3.06 diff

What a racket.

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A/C is for wimps anyways. No one had A/C 50+ 60+ years ago and somehow they all survived.

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