Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Its only in the last century or so that there have been any rules about war.

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

It was just the Russians "getting even" in their mind for 4 years of the most brutal land combat ever to have taken place in the history of warfare.


You think Iraq is bad? Its a hardly worth reporting minor skirmish compared to what happened on the eastern front.

Kursk is a very interesting battle among many.

Unlike what American and British tankers were used to, at Kursk their was so much armor in some sectors, and both sides were unwilling to back down that armor formations literally ran into and rammed each other. Throw an SS armor brigade and an angry Russian army at each other and not one slows down, 25mph collisions between T34's and Panzer 4's, Tigers, etc. Than when they collide you have a very confused mass of tanks mixed among each other and no one really knows what is what. But you get things like Tigers running into T34's at literally point blank and opening up. Or in the case of one Russian tank commander, getting blown out of his tank, and than after landing finding himself alongside another T34 which he boards and continues the fight in.

Compare that to when we shot up the Republican guard tanks, ha that's nothing.

So I can see why the Russians were a bit angry.

Originally Posted by HuskyMan

What Aklim is saying is true and correct. In War, the only rule is win and win at all cost. There are no rules. Might makes right. it appears that warfare brings out the very worst in people. We get to see just how low they will go. And, they will sink to new lows if given half an opportunity.

In WWII, Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin had all made a deal and Patton's beliefs were not considered. In this world, evil and bad wins every time. Right and good doesn't stand a snowball's chance in he**.

Welcome to the dark side.....

Originally Posted by Air&Road

I agree, but in War, the BEST is sometimes brought out in people as well.

Originally Posted by HuskyMan

I"ll add that recent actions by the Russian Mafia to the previous two items to prove up my case that Ruskies are bad people. Brutality taken to a new level.........I think when invading a country, the Japanese might be more benevolent than the Ruskies......

what kind of soldier rapes grandmothers and mothers in front of their own sons? sickos........

Originally Posted by Air&Road

I agree, but in War, the BEST is sometimes brought out in people as well.

Originally Posted by strelnik

Larry, I believe that you are right, on an individual basis. But unfortunately, individuals usually work for an army and they are forced to follow their orders.

Now..if you had a situation where the winning army was absolutely soooo superior to the losers..kind of like the Romans, and say, the Vulkans..then the superior technology would so overwhelm the others that they would blindly obey and the benevolent despot victors could do what you are saying and institutionalize the changes by stayoing in power until everyone who remembered the "old ways" was dead, and there would only be the "new ways."

It only happens in sci-fi, thus far anyway.

Ever see the movie "" Zardoz "" with Sean Connery? I recommend it.

Originally Posted by strelnik

Read about Manchuria and Nanking and you will see that the japanese decapitated the women in front of their children. Then they decapitated the children.

The Japanese were "eliminators" but the Russians, just brutes.

Originally Posted by Txjake

After reading these accounts, it is easy to see using the A bomb, if for nothing else, a punishment. We know that it saved countless scores of US lives, but it was also a hellacious payback for the japanese behavior during the war.

Originally Posted by HuskyMan

last I checked, the top five selling car brands in the United States are all japanese makes. they may have lost the WWII, but they are kicking our a** in the war of economics.

Originally Posted by HuskyMan

last I checked, the top five selling car brands in the United States are all japanese makes. they may have lost the WWII, but they are kicking our a** in the war of economics.