Hilarious. I apologized for the error. You, apparently, don't want to accept it.

The article makes a conclusions simply on the basis of the cut taxes for dividends and on estate taxes. The remainder of the article tries to make a case that the reduction in marginal tax rates causes a greater benefit for the wealthy. Naturally, this is obviously true for the simple reason that the wealthy make more money.

Such an argument, if left to its own devices, would have the wealthy paying marginal tax rates of 90% because that's where the greatest benefit would reside in terms of income.

No, sorry, I don't buy any of that argument. Fundamentally, you must sit down and make some decisions on how much you expect people to pay based upon income.

I gave you a scenario whereby a person had a taxable income of $300K and they currently pay $100K in taxes. When you address whether this amount of tax is acceptable, too low, or too high............then we can have a discussion about it. I'm not interested in discussing the opinion of an ivory tower institution that makes an argument based upon the obvious.

You call that an apology?I already said that it seemed about right to me.

Later.

Now, you've devolved into obtuse.

Later it is. You're as bad as some of the RWNJ's. A position with no solution.

You Didn't Build That

Readings from the Book of Barack

1 In the beginning Govt created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the economy was formless and void, darkness was over the surface of the ATMs, and the Spirit of Govt was hovering over the land.

3 And Govt said, “Let there be spending,” and there was spending. 4 Govt saw that the spending was good, and that it separated the light from the darkness. 5 Govt called the spending Investments, and this he did in the first day.

6 Then Govt said, “Let there be roads and bridges across the waters, and let dams divide the waters from the waters.” 7 Thus Govt made the infrastructure and the patronage jobs for eternity under the firmament from the Potomac which was above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And Govt called the firmament Washington. This Govt did on the second day.

9 Then Govt said, “Let the regulations and the guidlines under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the Bureaus appear”; and it was so. 10 And Govt called the Bureaus demigovts, and the gathering together of them He called AFSCME. And Govt saw that it was good.

11 Then Govt said, “Let there be police, and firefighters, and teachers according to their kind, for they will create more jobs”; and it was so. 12 And then Govt bade the void bring forth crime, and arson, and stupidity, that each would yield seed to bring forth more police, and firefighters, and teachers, and jobs. And Govt saw that it was good. 13 So the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 On the fourth day Govt said, “Let Us make the economy in Our image, according to Our likeness; let it have dominion over the cars of the road, over the appliances of the supercenters, and over the pet groomers of the strip malls, over all the clickthroughs of Amazon and over every creepy thing of the Dollar Stores.” 15 So Govt created the economy in His own image; services and wholesale and retail He created them. 16 Then Govt blessed them, and Govt said to them, “Be fruitful and use the multiplier effect; fill the land with jobs; thou have dominion over thy realm, within limits, as long and thou remember to get thy permits and tithe thy taxes, for they are good. Hope to see you at the fundraiser.”

17 And on the fifth day Govt made an official Govt holiday, and headed off for a 3-day golf weekend at Camp David. But first Govt said to the economy, "you are free to eat from any tree in the garden, except the tree of Knowledge. There is a serpent in that thing, and thy health care does not cover it."

18 So when Govt was on vay-cay the economy set about the garden, plowing its fields and generating revenue for the glory of Govt. They obeyed the regulations and were not ashamed.

19 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the balanced, publicly-funded birds the Lord Govt had made to sing news to the economy. The serpent was on the AM band. He said to the retail sector, “Did Govt really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’? ”

20 "Only yours, serpent," said the retail sector.

21 “Don't be a wuss,” the serpent said to the retail sector. 22 “For Govt knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will wise to Govt's scam.”

23 When she saw that the fruit was pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, and also free to download, she took some and ate it. She emailed a copy to her wholesaler, and he ate it; and then the wholesaler to the manufacturer, and he to the servicer. 24 Then the eyes of all of them were opened, and they realized they were being taxed naked; so they outsourced fig leaves to make coverings for themselves.

25 Then the economy heard the sound of the Lord Govt returning from vay-cay with the demigovts Osha and Tarp and Irs. It was the cool of the day, and they were hiding their profits from the Lord Govt among the trees of the garden. 26 But the Lord Govt called to the manufacturer, “Where are you?”

26 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid, so I sought a tax shelter.”

iowahawk: You Didn't Build That

In 2002, during his speech at the Opening Ceremonies at the Winter Olympics — the games in which Romney was lauded for turning around the management of the event “You Olympians, however, know you didn’t get here solely on your own power,” said Romney, who on Friday will attend the Opening Ceremonies of this year’s Summer Olympics. “For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers, encouraged your hopes, coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. We’ve already cheered the Olympians, let’s also cheer the parents, coaches, and communities. All right! [pumps fist].”
In full context, Romney, of course, also praised the Olympians’ efforts – right before he made his “you didn’t get here solely on your own” remark.

I love it!

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What, did anybody claim that Obama and Romney have fundamentally different beliefs in the role of government? In my opinion both are Big Gov socialists.

Yes, Romney is NO conservative, that's for SURE, but he IS ABBO.

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Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution

Baby steps. change direction tiny incremental steps

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Why did he say this? Who was his audience? What point did his intended audience take from this?

To make some feel like they do not have the recognition they ought to have. It's time those on a high hill know that we made the conditions that allow them to make so much money ...

It's a us against them ploy- one of the most common tactics to motivate crowds by speakers.

ABBOriginal.

Dammit man, I'm having a MK Ultra day if you didn't notice.

That's not what he said, but it sure seems to be what a lot of people heard, which says more about the listeners than it does about the speaker, IMHO.That part's probably true.

I think people are taking this comment, along with all that he has said and done since becoming President. Remember his comment to Joe, the Plumber, " Spread the wealth around"? He clearly believes in taking from those whom he judges as having more than they need, and giving it to those who, he feels, need it more.

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This is easy to say. The flip side is that the R's want to take it from those with less and give even more to those that already have much more than they need.


To me the question is much more elemental....who do I fear? The overzealous government? ....sometimes.

But turning it all over to big corporations and trusting them to do what is right is much more frightening to me.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.