And I'll betcha didn't read half of even one of those articles. But the headlines are cool. Please, continue, though. They all pretty well prove my point. Another goody:

And just 10 years later...
The Inevitable Result of Central Planning: China’s Ghost Cities and Malls

Apparently, you missed the part where you used an extreme example of an almost completely manipulated economy where 7 of 10 of the leading companies are absolutely owned by the state as an example of how a free-market economy would look.

Are you abandoning this position?

Or are you claiming that the aforementioned links are support that position?

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I don't know how you gathered that, or read all those articles in such a short time. I mean in the Rothbard article, he specifically cites 2 examples of unfettered trade. China wasn't one.

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I see.. We're going to quibble over definitions. From the link you put up So yes, that supports my position. Implying that "capitalism" is the polar opposite of centrally planned, or absolute free-trade.

Jim Rogers knows a thing or two about economics. No doubt about that.

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not an answer. Do you or do you not stand by your previous statement?

I believe you are incorrect.

Your own source concedes that there are differing forms of capitalism, yet you cling to a very narrow definition which fits the framework of your arguement.

If we are to keep the term "capitalism" at all, then, we must distinguish between "free-market capitalism" on the one hand, and "state capitalism" on the other. The two are as different as day and night in their nature and consequences. Free-market capitalism is a network of free and voluntary exchanges in which producers work, produce, and exchange their products for the products of others through prices voluntarily arrived at. State capitalism consists of one or more groups making use of the coercive apparatus of the government — the State — to accumulate capital for themselves by expropriating the production of others by force and violence.

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I do stand by it. And that ENTIRE ARTICLE goes on to provide why the state is the biggest impediment to capitalism, at any and all degrees. Notice the quotes. Perhaps Rothbard and I use the term capitalism differently. Even still, we're both talking about the same thing. And since I've pretty well made clear what capitalism is and means it shouldn't be an issue. AND since the guy who got this started WAS INDEED speaking of "unrestrained capitalism", this whole line of debate is moot.

What's the title of that article? Oh yeah "Capitalism versus Statism"...

Besides, how is it any different from your cherrypicking(poorly) to defend your position?

Only quibbling because you chose to define 'capitalism' in a manner inconsistent with it's use and application, and used this definition as the crux of your argument.

I don't believe that you will find any pure economic model to be in existence anywhere in the world. All the worlds economies are mutts.

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Sounds like home. Again, we're discussing our real governments and economies. Reality. Not, what your sophomore Econ textbook told you to expect some thirty years ago.

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Covered it the last post, and never said otherwise?

What does that even mean? Austrian economics does deal with real economics. AGAIN, I won't teach them to you.

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If you're talking about me, no, I was not talking about, nor did I say 'absolute free market capitalism' I said unfettered capitalism. As in how would capitalists behave if they were free to do as they wished. Ground Loop seems to think it would be heaven on Earth. I tend to think it would be less than ideal.

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Actually you said unrestrained. And I apologize for misquoting you. My post has since been changed to reflect that.

Would you call the Bernank a Keynesian or an Austrian?

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