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MS Fowler · #91 08-23-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

Akin did not make a bone head statement. He made a statement that he and Ryan believe in. It reinforces his base. His base would vote for him regardless of what he says. The independents are what he has to worry about as that seems to be where elections are won and lost. If there were people who were on the fence, that type of comment could push people one way or the other.

I would never vote for someone like Akin. I support a persons unfettered right to control their own body. In my mind that right is absolute and government has absolutely no right to intervene.

Nice democrat talking point--trying to tie Aikin to Ryan.

davidmash · #92 08-23-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Nice democrat talking point--trying to tie Aikin to Ryan.

Both Akin and Ryan were co-sponsors of the H.R. 212: Sanctity of Human Life Act. The bill used the term 'forcible rape' which has no legal or criminal definition. Both of them want abortion eliminated in all cases except where the mothers life is at risk (not sure why that should make a difference). Their views on abortion and womens rights are identical. Ryan tied his horse up him self. No one else had to help him. Look at Ryans voting record on abortion if you have any doubts.

hill · #93 08-23-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Nice democrat talking point--trying to tie Aikin to Ryan.

So Ryan having signed and cosigned bills like HR3. Is this a talking point?

So Ryan having signed and cosigned bills like HR3. Is this a talking point?

Six reasons why Todd Akin’s ‘legitimate rape’ remark could haunt the GOP | Texas on the Potomac | a Chron.com blog

4. Ryan and Akin were original cosponsors of controversial legislation that would narrow the definition of rape.
The proposal, H.R. 3, “changed the definition of ‘rape’ to ‘forcible rape,’ until public pressure forced the bill’s supporters to remove that unacceptable and narrow definition,” according to a New York Daily News account.

MS Fowler · #94 08-23-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hill

So Ryan having signed and cosigned bills like HR3. Is this a talking point?

So Ryan having signed and cosigned bills like HR3. Is this a talking point?

Six reasons why Todd Akin’s ‘legitimate rape’ remark could haunt the GOP | Texas on the Potomac | a Chron.com blog

4. Ryan and Akin were original cosponsors of controversial legislation that would narrow the definition of rape.
The proposal, H.R. 3, “changed the definition of ‘rape’ to ‘forcible rape,’ until public pressure forced the bill’s supporters to remove that unacceptable and narrow definition,” according to a New York Daily News account.

I see
Its still about the economy. Jobs/ unemployment/debt/ Medicare all outweigh this issue.

Or, maybe I am wrong, and this will be the single issue driving the election.

Air&Road · #95 08-23-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Nice democrat talking point--trying to tie Aikin to Ryan.

Yes, I guess he has fresh talking points from the Mother Ship.

Air&Road · #96 08-23-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I see
Its still about the economy. Jobs/ unemployment/debt/ Medicare all outweigh this issue.

Or, maybe I am wrong, and this will be the single issue driving the election.

No, it won't be an election issue, but B.O.'s boys in the MSM will stretch it as far as possible to CONCEAL the real issue that B.O. doesn't want talked about that you eluded to in the first part of your post.

davidmash · #97 08-23-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I see
Its still about the economy. Jobs/ unemployment/debt/ Medicare all outweigh this issue.

Or, maybe I am wrong, and this will be the single issue driving the election.

What history is there of either party doing anything of benefit for the economy? The Ryan plan is a fantasy. Changing White House occupants will not affect the economy much either way. It will affect social issues for decades.

Since you did not refute the evidence tying Ryan and Akin I'll take that as an agreement?

Benz Fan · #98 08-23-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

No, it won't be an election issue, but B.O.'s boys in the MSM will stretch it as far as possible to CONCEAL the real issue that B.O. doesn't want talked about that you eluded to in the first part of your post.

alluded to

MS Fowler · #99 08-23-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

What history is there of either party doing anything of benefit for the economy? The Ryan plan is a fantasy. Changing White House occupants will not affect the economy much either way. It will affect social issues for decades.

Since you did not refute the evidence tying Ryan and Akin I'll take that as an agreement?

I disagree that Ryan's plan is fantasy. Even democrats speak highly of his grasp of the budget. I think the democrat's version of his plan is fantasy. His plan is the only one to address the real issues. The Dems have's even passed a budget in years. They clearly have no plan--or at least no plan they want to vote on before the election. If they actually went on the record with their plan, they wouldn't be able to pander as easily.

davidmash · #**100** 08-23-2012, 10:37 PM

And the right is well known for their financial responsibility. Like I said, I don't think this election has anything to do with the economy. Sure there is a lot of blaming the other guys going on and quite a few folks who think they have the answer (I think they are all full of it) but when all is said and done, nothing will change. I still maintain that this election is about social issues but may be that's just me.

daveuz · #**101** 08-23-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I disagree that Ryan's plan is fantasy. Even democrats speak highly of his grasp of the budget. I think the democrat's version of his plan is fantasy. His plan is the only one to address the real issues. The Dems have's even passed a budget in years. They clearly have no plan--or at least no plan they want to vote on before the election. If they actually went on the record with their plan, they wouldn't be able to pander as easily.

But the problem with Ryan's plan is that he doesn't identify which income levels will pay which rates, which makes it impossible to figure out how the proposals would effect revenues. In an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal today, Ryan writes that revenue would "remain steady" because his plan would close special-interest loopholes. But the plan doesn't specify what loopholes would be closed.
This lack of details obviously limits the viability of Ryan's 'tax reform' plan, and underscores the fact that the plan is, at its core, a political document that no one — including Republicans — ever expects to pass.

Read more: Here's The First, Obvious Problem With Paul Ryan's Radical Tax Plan - Business Insider

Dudesky · #**102** 08-23-2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I see
Its still about the economy. Jobs/ unemployment/debt/ Medicare all outweigh this issue.

Or, maybe I am wrong, and this will be the single issue driving the election.

Looks like the election is over now. No need to vote Nov 6th.

daveuz · #**103** 08-23-2012, 10:49 PM

Ryan’s plan, known as the “Path to Prosperity,” seeks to reduce the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 25 percent and close tax loopholes — but Ryan has yet to specify which ones. Details about which loopholes he’s referring to won’t be disclosed until after the November election because, as Ryan told Fox News, it is “something that we think we should do in the light of day, through Congress.”

Paul Ryan’s plan would reduce corporate taxes, close tax loopholes - The Washington Post

daveuz · #**104** 08-23-2012, 10:54 PM

Yesterday, Mitt Romney released an economic plan entitled: “Mitt Romney’s new plan for a stronger middle class.” Many of the ideas in the one-page plan are ones we’ve heard before, such as increasing access to domestic energy resources, capping spending and cutting taxes, and getting tough on China. ...

ran this claim past Mark Hopkins, a senior analyst at Moody’s Analytics. His conclusion: according to his firm’s projections, the economy is already set to add 12 million jobs in the next four years, provided a series of policy outcomes take place, such as a long term deficit deal that includes tax hikes on the rich and cuts to entitlements....

In effect, therefore, Romney is essentially promising no more jobs than we currently expect to gain under proposals similar to those advanced by the Obama administration. There’s not enough in Romney’s plan to estimate how many jobs it would create. If he’s saying the net change will be 12 million jobs, that’s exactly what we’re estimating without Romney’s plan.

Romney: My one page plan will create 12 million jobs - The Plum Line - The Washington Post

daveuz · #**105** 08-23-2012, 11:12 PM

Mitt Romney met with Jack Wilkie, the doctor who claims rape victims rarely get pregnant, and they found great agreement.
The 87-year-old endorsed Mr Romney’s bid for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination and was one of his official campaign surrogates. ”I am proud to have the support of a man who has meant so much to the pro-life movement,” Mr Romney said at the time…

we agree on almost everything, and if I am elected President I will make some major pro-life pronouncements’,” Dr Willke said in a telephone interview on Tuesday.

Fox News: Mitt Romney Met With Doctor Todd Akin Cites On Rape And Said