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davidmash · #31 11-01-2012, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

Some of the equipment here is still running XP. I know a few people that are still using XP with the "classic" style start menu from Windows 98 era.

Ummmm, not that I am saying I do that but why would that be a bad thing? Just curious.

cullennewsom · #32 11-01-2012, 12:34 AM

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Ara T. · #33 11-01-2012, 12:37 AM

Not really worth it at this point. Maybe for a touchscreen tablet, but that all rides on how the app market for Windows 8 turns out. Otherwise the start interface is kind of annoying with a mouse/keyboard and kind of jarring on the eyes.

MS Fowler · #34 11-01-2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

Now, exactly why would anyone leave XP for a new OS that certainly requires more memory, requires a whole new set of application software, and a new learning curve to understand it?

As far as I'm concerned, I'll keep XP for the next 10 years if I can.

OMG! Brian and I agree. That should scare somebody.

JamesDean · #35 11-01-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

Ummmm, not that I am saying I do that but why would that be a bad thing? Just curious.

Its really all personal preference. Personally, I think that menu is largely inefficient when compared to its successors, especially the Windows Vista/7 variants.

I also prefer a clean desktop sans more than a dozen or so icons.

Its far quicker to type in a program name rather than look through two or three columns of listings.

pawoSD · #36 11-01-2012, 12:59 PM

All Msoft support for XP will be gone within just over a year, so no further updates/patches/support will be provided, thats when it will start to get really bad for XP users. And may companies are starting to pull support for the OS in general, such as google's recent decision to make their web services not function properly in IE8, which is the last supported upgrade to the browser in XP, and is now years old, and outdated.

The system requirements of Windows 7 and 8 are not very high when compared to the average specs of even a "low end" machine available currently. (or even the last 2-3 years) You can build an amazingly powerful PC for well under $400, and can buy one off the shelf for under $500 with great specs.

Still using XP is a poor decision as less and less software will support it, malware EASILY compromises it, and overall it is just outdated technology and cannot keep pace with current hardware innovations.

I am far from sold on Windows 8, but there's little excuse to not be on Win7 at this point. The longer you wait to upgrade the more painful it is. Clinging to XP is just sad...

And over in the MAC camp, people line up for days to get the latest stuff, and it generally costs far more, and is released more often, than windows products. Explain that!!

flainn · #37 11-01-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

Still using XP is a poor decision as less and less software will support it, malware EASILY compromises it, and overall it is just outdated technology and cannot keep pace with current hardware innovations.

I agree with every word. Any ideas on how I can convince the Air Force?

Brian Carlton · #38 11-01-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

The longer you wait to upgrade the more painful it is. Clinging to XP is just sad...

Those are two factually incorrect statements.

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

And over in the MAC camp, people line up for days to get the latest stuff, and it generally costs far more, and is released more often, than windows products. Explain that!!

People are stupid.

MTI · #39 11-01-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

And over in the MAC camp, people line up for days to get the latest stuff, and it generally costs far more, and is released more often, than windows products. Explain that!!

Very few waited in line for Mountain Lion . . . since it was only available via download from the App Store for $20, $10 less than its predecessor Lion . . . oh and not per computer . . . up to five computers can be listed on a App Store account, so if you have five Macs, you only pay the $20 once. I guess if that makes Mac users stupid, then revel in your intelligence MS Windows users.

JamesDean · #40 11-01-2012, 01:20 PM

Microsoft would do well to offer something that allowed for multiple installations of a purchase, or at least maybe 3 keycode pack for a discounted price.

I've got 5 Windows 7 machines.

tbomachines · #41 11-01-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

Microsoft would do well to offer something that allowed for multiple installations of a purchase, or at least maybe 3 keycode pack for a discounted price.

I've got 5 Windows 7 machines.

X2, I only have 2 machines but ive reformatted both at least 3 times. All comes down to money thpugh

pawoSD · #42 11-01-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

Those are two factually incorrect statements.

People are stupid.

Oh its very much factually correct. I work with companies every day who have stuck with old software for years instead of moving along every couple years to a new version with the migration tools that were available each time. Now many are stuck with ancient files and software 5+ versions behind with no direct migration path. Very painful. Often the process is to abandon old files/configurations and slowly start anew in the new environment, wasting a ton of time and productivity. Or worse, creating a hodgepodge of both environments and having things not work productively. If you are a company that for instance, receives cad drawings from customers, and you have software 3-4 versions older than theirs, you will not be able to effectively work with, view, or produce the product for them due to being so far behind in technology. See this happen ALL the time.

And XP is very easily compromised. I would say about 80% of the machines I deal with that end up damaged/infected/needing extensive work are XP, despite an installed supported base that is only about 40-45% XP at this point. Speaks for itself.

Air&Road · #43 11-01-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

Those are two factually incorrect statements.

People are stupid.

Well MS, it must be contagious. I'm agreeing with Brian too.

pawoSD · #44 11-01-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

Microsoft would do well to offer something that allowed for multiple installations of a purchase, or at least maybe 3 keycode pack for a discounted price.

I've got 5 Windows 7 machines.

They do with OEM pricing and licensing, especially for businesses. With both Win7 and now with Win8, there was/is a very lucrative and low cost upgrade price available for a number of months. I believe its around $39, which is very reasonable....even if you choose to not actually install it right away.

Often the costs of hanging onto older systems will come back to haunt eventually, in the form of higher costs to painfully transition much later than if it had been properly managed and done steadily all along.

Stretch · #45 11-01-2012, 01:34 PM

May be one day the penny will drop and people will just pay for hardware and software will become something that is supplied or shared - just think how much development work could have been done to XP if it was open source and legal to do so...