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spdrun · #16 12-07-2012, 02:36 PM

Indoor smoking laws apply to any smokable, not just tobacco. If anything, this should reduce indoor pot smoking since people no longer need to worry about the police.

Dubyagee · #17 12-07-2012, 02:48 PM

Lets make all drugs legal. Let the morons sift themselves out of the gene pool.

I'm for the government staying out of personal decisions that don't affect the safety of others.

Air&Road · #18 12-07-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

Assuming it's ingested in moderation rather than smoked, have any adverse health effects been proven?

Well, since due to the fact that it has been illegal up to now, I doubt that many people have pointed out their use. This means that there are no statistics since there's very little, if any, data.

That said, since marijuana has not yet been anything studied and approved by the FDA. We're flying blind.

I contend that no one in their right or straight mind would believe that there is ABSOLUTELY NO RISK in smoking marijuana. EVERYTHING has a down side of some sort.

I casually viewed a documentary on the stuff the other day, where they said that 31 compounds have been identified that are suspected of being hazardous. What do you think are the odds of at least ONE of them being harmful?

Air&Road · #19 12-07-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

YEah, all that 'personal responsibility' stuff is a real PITA.

Bot, do you think that ALL smokers of marijuana who become ill, will take responsibility for their own medical bills?

Air&Road · #20 12-07-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

Soon the Jack-booted thugs will be at your door forcing you to take bong hits....
Hell-in-a-hand-basket, I tell ya...

Bongwater - Kisses Sweeter Than Wine - YouTube

Yeah, they'll be doing that while they're holding me at gunpoints and taking away all my guns.

Air&Road · #21 12-07-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by duxthe1

This is where a lack of knowledge is showing. Because you have been "told" that cannabis is harmful, you "know" it is true. However what if I told you that cannabis can cure cancer? Sounds like I'd be making that up, well not according to the National Cancer Institute.....

Here's an excerpt from another website:

One way cannabinoids kills cancer:
Essentially a lot of upcoming research in cancer treatment is being done around reducing the signal protein VEGF (Vascular endothelial growth factor). VEGF is what lets cancer cells get food/protein and grow. Many attempts are being made to create medicines that reduce VEGF levels with little success, while cannabinoids have always been able to do this effectively enough to kill cancer.

Here is the how it works IN A NUTSHELL:

Blocking VEGF -> Stops Cancer growth -> Left over cancer has no way to get food and dies.

Cannabinoids like CBD and many others were able to stop the tumors ability to receive their proteins needed to grow and was able to stop tumor growth in it's tracks. While - the continued blocking of VEGF prevents the tumor from even maintaining itself, at which point the tumors begin to die! This is one of the most important breakthrough in understanding cannabis and it's ability to outright kill cancer - while protecting the cells around the cancer (which many therapy's like chemo cannot achieve - hence the loss of hair and attack on the rest of the body that big pharmas cancer medicines inflict.)

So tell me again why maintaining a plant known to have extremely positive health benefits as illegal because some people actually enjoy ingesting it....???

Tell you what! Rather than swallow some one sided claims, let's wait until the substance has been thoroughly analyzed and data collected over a period of years, before we start saying that this stuff will cure all the problems in the world.

There was a time, in MY early life, when it was commonly believed that smoking tobacco was totally safe. The VAST MAJORITY of people smoked the nasty things. Have you happened to noticed how that's worked out for many people in the world with their lung cancer and enphyzema(sp?)

If marijuana turns out to have ZERO health risks and it is proven by reliable organizations, then I'll buy into it being legalized. What are the chances of ZERO health risks? Only someone high on the stuff and blinded by their joy could ever believe that it is completely risk free.

MTI · #22 12-07-2012, 03:03 PM

Like too much water!

Air&Road · #23 12-07-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee

Lets make all drugs legal. Let the morons sift themselves out of the gene pool.

I'm for the government staying out of personal decisions that don't affect the safety of others.

I can go along with this as long as they don't take their healthcare costs out of my tax money AND as long as violation of DUID laws are aggressively enforced.

spdrun · #24 12-07-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Well, since due to the fact that it has been illegal up to now, I doubt that many people have pointed out their use. This means that there are no statistics since there's very little, if any, data.

Actually, there have been quite a few studies -- patient data in studies is confidential and people WILL admit to use as long as that's understood. Not to mention certain European countries where use is tolerated if not 100% legal.

MTI · #25 12-07-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

I can go along with this as long as they don't take their healthcare costs out of my tax money AND as long as violation of DUID laws are aggressively enforced.

And I wish my tax money wasn't spent on unnecessary wars and propping up tinhorn dictators around the world.

panZZer · #26 12-07-2012, 04:44 PM

As far as the troll inhabiting this thread--and where ever, No not sad at all. People that do it are going to do it reguardless. taking away the opportunity of the pigs to decide they just dont like someones appearance-hair style so -taillight. no front license plate turns into "investigation" - leads to arrest, much power taken from them, and much less recources taken from citizens to put them in the system over something ridiculous. Nancy Regan sentiments residue had ruined many lives--you tag someone with a "dangerous drugs" charge, it has lasting impacts, and the pigs think they get to make someone answer for it for the rest of their lives--when , matter of fact -they DONT have to.
but --you know , some people have relatives working in the criminal justice system--perhaps leaded into that line of work by a member of the poppa daddy war on drugs party--so this aint good for buisness.

cullennewsom · #27 12-07-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Well, at least this category of societal decadence is a little slower in making it to my part of the world.

Very sad day for the citizens of that state, and for all of us, since it's coming to all states sooner or later.

A sad day everywhere for authoritarians, busybodies, and freedom haters of any other kind.

spdrun · #28 12-07-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cullennewsom

A sad day everywhere for authoritarians, busybodies, and freedom haters of any other kind.

Truth! Not to mention fiscally irresponsible gov't spenders -- real smart to spend billions on "control" of what's essentially a mildly psychoactive weed.

cullennewsom · #29 12-07-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Tell you what! Rather than swallow some one sided claims, let's wait until the substance has been thoroughly analyzed and data collected over a period of years, before we start saying that this stuff will cure all the problems in the world.

There was a time, in MY early life, when it was commonly believed that smoking tobacco was totally safe. The VAST MAJORITY of people smoked the nasty things. Have you happened to noticed how that's worked out for many people in the world with their lung cancer and enphyzema(sp?)

If marijuana turns out to have ZERO health risks and it is proven by reliable organizations, then I'll buy into it being legalized. What are the chances of ZERO health risks? Only someone high on the stuff and blinded by their joy could ever believe that it is completely risk free.

Nothing, not even water, has ZERO health risks.