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martureo · #**316** 01-21-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

So? What does that prove? I'll bet we can name 5 other religions that he wasn't familiar with or even heard. What of it? Must everyone know everything in your book of fairy tales?

It proves that the Qu'ran was not divinely inspired, OR that Allah doesn't know all and thus should not be worried about.

The Qu'ran is supposedly written by Allah in eternity past, if Allah doesn't know what Christians actually believed (and only shows to have knowledge of a verbally transmitted 2nd century Gnostic writing and rumors) then it proves the Qu'ran to be authored by man.

Do you get it now?

MTI · #**317** 01-21-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

I found this. Incredible Facts of The Bible (HD) - YouTube

Pretty old stuff, where is last weeks stuff . . Or last month? Mister "almost daily?"

davidmash · #**318** 01-21-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo

I am showing the Qu'ran for what it is. History backs my assertions up.

I have no problem if my arguments reveal you have no spine.

For some reason you have a problem when I not only assert what I believe but actually let it effect my being. Your god, (if you have one) is a false god. My God is the only one that exists, and not only is he my God, He should be your god too.

But hey... I'm only giving God's own apologetic of Himself.

kerry · #**319** 01-21-2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo

But hey... I'm only giving God's own apologetic of Himself.

I guess we should feel privileged to have the voice of God himself speaking to us.

davidmash · #**320** 01-21-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Pretty old stuff, where is last weeks stuff . . Or last month? Mister "almost daily?"

The old stuff is not even true.

Of course you create the universe before you create the planet. If you do it the other way around where do you put the planet?

The fact that they did not know how the earth was 'hung' does not prove they knew of gravity. It just proves they believed in magic.

Circle of earth? Go out to a flat place and look around. Looks like a circle huh?

They knew nothing of rotation of the earth. They thought the earth was the center of the universe.

They did not even know of a universe much less an expanding one.

Not sure of the springs thing but I doubt they are talking about the same thing.

I gave up here. Cant watch that nonsense anymore.

aklim · #**321** 01-21-2013, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

The Bible is NOT a book of fairy tales. Science is proving the Bible to be factual almost daily.

Please show me some examples from scientific journals that prove the existence of a god, any god.

aklim · #**322** 01-21-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo

The Qu'ran is supposedly written by Allah in eternity past, if Allah doesn't know what Christians actually believed (and only shows to have knowledge of a verbally transmitted 2nd century Gnostic writing and rumors) then it proves the Qu'ran to be authored by man.

Do you get it now?

Or perhaps it proves that Allah couldn't care less about some other so called deity? After all, the Qu'ran doesn't talk about the perfect recipe for Strawberry Shortcake and I am sure that Allah wasn't interested in it either when discussing about how man should live his life.

I get that every religion THINKS it has the lock on truth when it comes to a god.

chilcutt · #**323** 01-22-2013, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by martureo

I am showing the Qu'ran for what it is. History backs my assertions up.

I have no problem if my arguments reveal you have no spine.

For some reason you have a problem when I not only assert what I believe but actually let it effect my being. Your god, (if you have one) is a false god. My God is the only one that exists, and not only is he my God, He should be your god too.

But hey... I'm only giving God's own apologetic of Himself.

I repeat..

Your hypocrasy is here for all to see...

elchivito · #**324** 01-22-2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by martureo

Your god, (if you have one) is a false god. My God is the only one that exists, and not only is he my God, He should be your god too.

And if he's not, then what?

Air&Road · #**325** 01-22-2013, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

I guess that is about the only answer you can give.

Well, I guess I could always do like you guys and vote for someone with whom I do NOT agree.

aklim · #**326** 01-22-2013, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Well, I guess I could always do like you guys and vote for someone with whom I do NOT agree.

So you are trying to have the best of both worlds? You support a senator that takes away my rights but you disavow him after he does it? You can't have it both ways. You stand with him when he takes away my rights when it doesn't affect you, it makes him my enemy and you my enemy too. Therefore, as I said, the man that takes away my rights was responsible AS ARE YOU.

So stand with him all the way or not at all

kerry · #**327** 01-22-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

And if he's not, then what?

You'll be on the wrong end of the fork at that great genocidal barbecue in the sky.

aklim · #**328** 01-22-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

You'll be on the wrong end of the fork at that great genocidal barbecue in the sky.

So would the deity be stupid and/or desperate enough to accept "belief due to fear"?

martureo · #**329** 01-22-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

I guess we should feel privileged to have the voice of God himself speaking to us.

Would you like me to quote the Shema?

Or YHWH mocking the false gods in Isaiah? Or in Jeremiah?

martureo · #**330** 01-22-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Or perhaps it proves that Allah couldn't care less about some other so called deity? After all, the Qu'ran doesn't talk about the perfect recipe for Strawberry Shortcake and I am sure that Allah wasn't interested in it either when discussing about how man should live his life.

I get that every religion THINKS it has the lock on truth when it comes to a god.

The author of the Qu'ran specifically spoke against what he viewed as Christian belief. He also made claims about Jesus.

Your ignorance of the rather important concept of Tawhid is proving you to be a belligerent idiot.

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