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kerry · #**301** 01-19-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

From an academic standpoint, sure..

And from a social policy point of view also. So for instance, it might be wise to legalize marijuana in an attempt to use it as a substitute for meth. Same might be applicable to religion. A country might want to encourage certain forms of religion to avoid worse forms.

aklim · #**302** 01-19-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt

I voted No.
While I respect the people who believe Jesus of Nazareth ...is God..(because that is their belief)...I believe Jesus of Nazareth was a Prophet..nothing more..nothing less.

Why?

Rational and Cosmic evidence of the Creator shows that He is the one. "No son did Allah beget, nor is there any God along with Him: (if there were many Gods), each God would have taken away what He had created, and some would have lorded over others".

Since the existance of more than one God implies imperfection such as impotence, deficiency, and being created, the Creators oneness is a must.

According to Islam the biggest sins include not acknowledging God, associateing partners in His Personage, Attributes, or Acts, and dareing to attribute divinity to anything other to Him.
This sin is called "polytheism:associateing partners".

All you are doing is using your own book to justify it's views. Christians also share that same trait. You might as well tell your prospective employer that you will be your own reference for all the good it does.

aklim · #**303** 01-19-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

And from a social policy point of view also. So for instance, it might be wise to legalize marijuana in an attempt to use it as a substitute for meth. Same might be applicable to religion. A country might want to encourage certain forms of religion to avoid worse forms.

Sounds nice in theory where you substitute a lesser addictive problem for a worse problem but is encouraging religion of any sort a good idea? Could you see our country encouraging one form of crap over the other? How would that "worse form" take it? Would it make them even worse?

kerry · #**304** 01-19-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Sounds nice in theory where you substitute a lesser addictive problem for a worse problem but is encouraging religion of any sort a good idea? Could you see our country encouraging one form of crap over the other? How would that "worse form" take it? Would it make them even worse?

I don't think it's likely to occur in the USA due to the constitutional constraints but there are many countries around the world with different constitutions and different opportunities to allow/prohibit the growth of religion, especially in regards to the influx of missionaries. In a third world country, allowing certain kinds of missionaries in, while prohibiting other kinds of missionaries could have a huge influence on the country.

chilcutt · #**305** 01-19-2013, 12:37 PM

Well Mr. Lim, you have no respect for People who believe in God..so your reply comes as no surprise.
May I ask why it is that you take it upon yourself to attack any religion...every time anything is posted about religion?

After-all...we have heard your song and dance before..there is pretty much nothing else new coming from out of your camp.

Kinda like a broken record..know what I mean Jellybean.

aklim · #**306** 01-19-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt

Well Mr. Lim, you have no respect for People who believe in God..so your reply comes as no surprise.
May I ask why it is that you take it upon yourself to attack any religion...every time anything is posted about religion?

After-all...we have heard your song and dance before..there is pretty much nothing else new coming from out of your camp.

Kinda like a broken record..know what I mean Jellybean.

I could say the same about you except you are from the opposite camp. So what of it?

martureo · #**307** 01-19-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt

I voted No.
While I respect the people who believe Jesus of Nazareth ...is God..(because that is their belief)...I believe Jesus of Nazareth was a Prophet..nothing more..nothing less.

Why?

Rational and Cosmic evidence of the Creator shows that He is the one. "No son did Allah beget, nor is there any God along with Him: (if there were many Gods), each God would have taken away what He had created, and some would have lorded over others".

Since the existance of more than one God implies imperfection such as impotence, deficiency, and being created, the Creators oneness is a must.

According to Islam the biggest sins include not acknowledging God, associateing partners in His Personage, Attributes, or Acts, and dareing to attribute divinity to anything other to Him.
This sin is called "polytheism:associateing partners".

I do love that the Qu'ran proves quite well that Muhammed was quite ignorant of Christian doctrine.

The Clk Man · #**308** 01-19-2013, 09:27 PM

The Lord has blessed us this week.

aklim · #**309** 01-19-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo

I do love that the Qu'ran proves quite well that Muhammed was quite ignorant of Christian doctrine.

So? What does that prove? I'll bet we can name 5 other religions that he wasn't familiar with or even heard. What of it? Must everyone know everything in your book of fairy tales?

The Clk Man · #**310** 01-21-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

So? What does that prove? I'll bet we can name 5 other religions that he wasn't familiar with or even heard. What of it? Must everyone know everything in your book of fairy tales?

The Bible is NOT a book of fairy tales. Science is proving the Bible to be factual almost daily.

chilcutt · #**311** 01-21-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo

I do love that the Qu'ran proves quite well that Muhammed was quite ignorant of Christian doctrine.

Herein lies the problem...as well as the differance between you and I.

I respect whatever it is you want to believe.

You make a lame effort to discredit the Quran.

Your hypocrasy is here for all to see.

MTI · #**312** 01-21-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

The Bible is NOT a book of fairy tales. Science is proving the Bible to be factual almost daily.

Okay, what was last week's scientific finding of biblical fact?

kerry · #**313** 01-21-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Okay, what was last week's scientific finding of biblical fact?

Jesus died.

The Clk Man · #**314** 01-21-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Okay, what was last week's scientific finding of biblical fact?

I found this. Incredible Facts of The Bible (HD) - YouTube

martureo · #**315** 01-21-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt

Herein lies the problem...as well as the differance between you and I.

I respect whatever it is you want to believe.

You make a lame effort to discredit the Quran.

Your hypocrasy is here for all to see.

I am showing the Qu'ran for what it is. History backs my assertions up.

I have no problem if my arguments reveal you have no spine.

For some reason you have a problem when I not only assert what I believe but actually let it effect my being. Your god, (if you have one) is a false god. My God is the only one that exists, and not only is he my God, He should be your god too.

But hey... I'm only giving God's own apologetic of Himself.

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