I see why the mods took this down. Its getting pretty nasty.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

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There are certain parts of the world where the response would be significantly different. Latin America, for instance, where Pentecostals are replacing Catholics at an amazing rate. It looks like the victory of neo-liberalism in the Southern hemisphere, naturally expanded Protestantism.

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1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Interesting. About a century ago, a branch of my then fresh off the boat Italian ancestors converted from RC to Pentecostal. My great grandparents were very religious. My grandparents pretty religious, my parents just slightly religious, and I've become an apathetic agnostic.

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08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 26,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.
99 Mazda Miata 183,xxx miles.

Does that correlate with progression up the class ladder?

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1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

I guess that is about the only answer you can give.

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What's the difference? I am hooked on Oxycontin. I broke that habit and replaced it with morphine. Big whoopie.

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I'm not completely sure what all the differences are, but it appears that Protestantism is more compatible with capitalism than Catholicism. For one thing, Pentecostalism requires a person to make a conscious decision to join the decision. For Catholics the decision is made before a person is self-aware. This 'creates' a much stronger sense of free choice. Pentecostalism also doesn't involve an international hierarchy with centralized control. Pentecostalism does provide a better 'fix' than Catholicism. Catholicism is anti-individualist in its social philosophy.

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1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

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1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

The first Pentecostal heads of State were in South America. I admit it's a scary thought.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

I would have liked to see this poll with age brackets attached. My suspicion is that a majority of those who are religious (regardless of affiliation) are older and those who are not are younger.

I wonder if any of those who said no on this survey were of religions other than Christian. I know Chilcut is not Christian but not sure if he voted or not.

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- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Either way, you are replacing one opiate with another. About the only thing I agree with Karl Marx on is religion being the opiate of the masses.

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I wouldn't disagree with that as a general statement but the social and personal effects of meth are different than the social and personal effects opium. It's worth knowing the differences.

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1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

From an academic standpoint, sure. Either way, it isn't good to be addicted to either especially when the mucky mucks of the religion or drug dealers decide to yank your chain a little more. Actually, maybe it is better to be addicted to opiates than religion. I see that more and more with my parents and can only hope I never become that senile or die before I do.

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I voted No.
While I respect the people who believe Jesus of Nazareth ...is God..(because that is their belief)...I believe Jesus of Nazareth was a Prophet..nothing more..nothing less.

Why?

Rational and Cosmic evidence of the Creator shows that He is the one. "No son did Allah beget, nor is there any God along with Him: (if there were many Gods), each God would have taken away what He had created, and some would have lorded over others".

Since the existance of more than one God implies imperfection such as impotence, deficiency, and being created, the Creators oneness is a must.

According to Islam the biggest sins include not acknowledging God, associateing partners in His Personage, Attributes, or Acts, and dareing to attribute divinity to anything other to Him.
This sin is called "polytheism:associateing partners".

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