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View Poll Results: Do you accept Jesus as your Saviour?
Yes I Do 17 44.74%
No I Don't 21 55.26%
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:01 PM
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I just double checked on Matt 5:39 and I didn't see a footnote, 'unless the A hole has it coming.'
It might have been in Scarface:

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Old 01-09-2013, 05:03 PM
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Big Giant Gnarly Problem I see with your logic here Larry.....

Putting one dude, the All Honorable Jesus H. Christ, at the center of things and claiming majority status because, well, you know, more than 50% of US citizens point towards The Dude - implies that you're accepting every certifiable nut job who claims to be a Christian into your tent (Westboro BC, anybody?). Separate the branches/cults/wingnuts/NOT ENOUGH LIKE ME types from your particular definition of mainstream, and I'd argue that your majority status goes in the crapper just as quickly as any claim that all Muslims are evil because (gasp!!!) Al Qaeda.
I think he is trying to push the blame on anyone else. "It's not my fault. The guy I sponsored took away your rights not me.". "It's the fault of the majority." Sooner or later, it will be the fault of the man on the moon.

All part of trying to distance himself from what was done at his and other people of his ilk's behest.
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Big Giant Gnarly Problem I see with your logic here Larry.....

Putting one dude, the All Honorable Jesus H. Christ, at the center of things and claiming majority status because, well, you know, more than 50% of US citizens point towards The Dude - implies that you're accepting every certifiable nut job who claims to be a Christian into your tent (Westboro BC, anybody?). Separate the branches/cults/wingnuts/NOT ENOUGH LIKE ME types from your particular definition of mainstream, and I'd argue that your majority status goes in the crapper just as quickly as any claim that all Muslims are evil because (gasp!!!) Al Qaeda.

WOW! Talk about a STRETCH!

By proclaiming my relationship with Jesus Christ I am making no connection with anyone else or any group. This would be like saying that because of the relationship with my wife that I am proclaiming allegiance to all brunettes.
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I think he is trying to push the blame on anyone else. "It's not my fault. The guy I sponsored took away your rights not me.". "It's the fault of the majority." Sooner or later, it will be the fault of the man on the moon.

All part of trying to distance himself from what was done at his and other people of his ilk's behest.

Aklim,

I believe that when it comes to things OTHER THAN religion or belief in God, you are one of the most level headed, common sense and intelligent posting persons on this forum.

When God or faith DOES make it into the conversation, your logic just seems to go off into never never land or something.

I vote for people who seem to represent my beliefs. Do YOU?
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I am of the impression that Jesus bought into the "share the wealth" philosophy. Oh wait, what does that make O?
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I vote for people who seem to represent my beliefs. Do YOU?
What's your point? My point is that by voting for someone that represents your belief, you are responsible for what he does. If your voted goes and tramples other's rights, YOU are responsible. For example, if I vote a known Klansman or member of the White Aryan Nation because he represents my belief that black people are inferior, I am responsible for the trampling of black rights. As long as the person you sponsor doesn't disturb someone else, all is well. The is like a guy who donates to Al Qaeda coming to say "OMG! They blew up a school and killed 100 kids! I didn't do that!".

What you seem to be saying is "I voted for a guy that trampled on the rights of others when it was none of my business to begin with. However, that absolves me from any responsibility for what happened. It was all him and not me.". If that is not what you are saying, please clarify.
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I am of the impression that Jesus bought into the "share the wealth" philosophy. Oh wait, what does that make O?
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What's your point? My point is that by voting for someone that represents your belief, you are responsible for what he does. If your voted goes and tramples other's rights, YOU are responsible. For example, if I vote a known Klansman or member of the White Aryan Nation because he represents my belief that black people are inferior, I am responsible for the trampling of black rights. As long as the person you sponsor doesn't disturb someone else, all is well. The is like a guy who donates to Al Qaeda coming to say "OMG! They blew up a school and killed 100 kids! I didn't do that!".

What you seem to be saying is "I voted for a guy that trampled on the rights of others when it was none of my business to begin with. However, that absolves me from any responsibility for what happened. It was all him and not me.". If that is not what you are saying, please clarify.

Aklim,

We USUALLY can communicate even when we don't agree. Let's do a reset and try to start over.

You and/or others have laid all this stuff on me before indicating that I should not vote for someone with whom I agree. Let's start there.

Finding a politician with which one agrees with on 100% of the issues is virtually impossible. I try to find one that generally represents my beliefs. IF I can find that person to represent me, I vote for them.

Do you take a different approach when selecting someone to represent you?
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:41 PM
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Aklim,

We USUALLY can communicate even when we don't agree. Let's do a reset and try to start over.

You and/or others have laid all this stuff on me before indicating that I should not vote for someone with whom I agree. Let's start there.

Finding a politician with which one agrees with on 100% of the issues is virtually impossible. I try to find one that generally represents my beliefs. IF I can find that person to represent me, I vote for them.

Do you take a different approach when selecting someone to represent you?
Keep up the GOOD fight Larry.
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Finding a politician with which one agrees with on 100% of the issues is virtually impossible. I try to find one that generally represents my beliefs. IF I can find that person to represent me, I vote for them.

Do you take a different approach when selecting someone to represent you?
I agree that there is no 100% agreement. However, that said, when your representative does something that interfere's with someone else, it is hard for you to say you didn't play a role in it.

That said, if you have a legit reason, for example, if we are talking about pushing for the HOA to ban car wrecks on the front lawn because it affects my resale value of the home, fair enough. OTOH, if we push a rule to ban wrecked cars in the driveway of some neighborhood 20 miles away, I look at it as interfering in someone's affair when you have NO legitimate interest. I know I am probably not explaining it well but I hope you get the gist.
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Jesus Loves Everyone And Wants Them To Live A Good Life.
Sure. In return for what? Me killing my first born son? Thanks but no thanks.

Or maybe it is like the hooker in Full Metal Jacket?

Da Nang Hooker: Hey, baby. You got girlfriend Vietnam?
Private Joker: Not just this minute.
Da Nang Hooker: Well, baby, me so horny. Me so HORNY. Me love you long time. You party?
Private Joker: Yeah, we might party. How much?
Da Nang Hooker: Fifteen dollar.
Private Joker: Fifteen dollars for both of us?
Da Nang Hooker: No. Each you fifteen dollar. Me love you long time. Me so HORNY.
Private Joker: Fifteen dollar too beaucoup. Five dollars each.
Da Nang Hooker: Me sucky-sucky. Me love you too much.
Private Joker: Five dollars is all my mom allows me to spend.
Da Nang Hooker: Okay. Ten dollar each.
Private Joker: What do we get for ten dollars?
Da Nang Hooker: Every t'ing you want.
Private Joker: Everything?
Da Nang Hooker: Every t'ing.
Private Joker: [to Rafterman] Well, old buddy, feel like spending some of your hard-earned money?
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Read it cover to cover myself more than once but haven't found anything worthwhile to make me accept something that mystical.
So, Mr. Lim, would you say that the Holy Bible the one(s) you "read (it) cover to cover more than once," was one (if not the best) collection of short stories of novels you've ever read?

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