Yep, in the case of highly educated and pretty well off German officers a vacation to the country and Scotch was far more affective than traditional "information extraction methods".

Prussians don't talk under torture.

__________________
2006 CL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2026 Genesis GV70
2007 Tiara 3200

Perhaps not but it would be foolish to simply say that because it doesn't work 100% of the time, that is the excuse to scrap it so that I can feel a little more comfortable at bedtime. It would be nice if we could do the milk and cookies routine for every prisoner but that isn't always going to work. So, perhaps it would be wiser to have as many tools as possible that you might find one that works.

__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

The real question is that if interrogation never worked why would they continue to use it. So it must work some of the time.


What I have read about is with the intelligence gathering you mostly get little pieces of info here and there as if they are pieces of a Puzzle.


Some tiny fragment of information could save some of the Lives of our Troops or prevent some Terrorist act from happening.

Another issue not spoke of is what is the Character of the Enemy We are dealing with?

These are People that will purposely set off a Bomb in the middle of Market Place full of their Own People without regards to anyone; and, say it is Gods will.

__________________
84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel

Each of the various methods of interrogation works under some circumstances and fails under others. I doubt anybody has done a scientific, double-blind comparative study in urder to partial out the degree to which the various methods maybe relied upon, the conditions, the outcomes and the peril related to the information sought.

For example, If I was reasonably certain that you (anybody) knew where a molester-torturer-murderer was holding a captive child I believe I would forget the constitutional protections normally afforded you and the suspect.

But if you were a suspect in an armed robbery of a liquor store I hope I would have the good sense to treat you with full constitutional protection.

In the first instance, an immanent, terrible fate awaits an innocent victim. Time is important. In the second instance an insurance company and a convenience store are on the hook for material losses, which I see as a far lesser crime and with no serious time constraint.

I think we can imagine a rich spectrum of possibilities, some of which exceed the first example (say, Kirk Vining has an H-Bomb in his closet), but most are probably far less an immanent threat to life and property.

In general, I agree with Alan Dershowitz, that full constitutional protections should be extended to all people of the planet. But we should also recognize that some extraordinary circumstances are so dire and the outcomes so burdensome, that we should recognize a moral rather than legal guidance.

I suspect this line of argument is what supports Obama's drone strikes on American citizens not formally charged with a crime and beyond the normal judicial review.

If you have a diamond-sharp belief knowing all-encompassing answer, well good on you. I don't.

If you read some Books on what the US POWs went through in Vietnam you find the North Vietnamese invented a new form (or someone gave them the info) of torture that kept you from passing out.
While it did not work 100% either from what I have read it was a rare Person it did not Break.
But, that was combined with the other neglectful treatment they got.

So I am thinking the methods we are using are not as effective because the methods are not as brutal and they are being used on well feed Captives in reasonable Health.

__________________
84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel