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Old 04-01-2013, 10:26 AM
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Disturbing that someone and his wife were killed. Not any more disturbing than anyone else getting killed, though -- gov't officials (especially those feeding into or running the US prison-industrial complex) aren't somehow entitled to EXTRA mourning over anyone else who happens to lose their life.

Have to say that with excessively long prison sentences, no easy expungement of records in some states, comparatively minor offenses being elevated to felonies, cuts in prison educational programs, and the fact that we're keeping 1% of all Americans incarcerated, we're creating an angry underclass with no prospects and little to lose. Those shootings might be a sign that our unjust justice system needs reform, and the sooner the better.

Hope they catch the killers and lock them up. Also hope that people will ask more questions.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:32 AM
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Disturbing that someone and his wife were killed. Not any more disturbing than anyone else getting killed -- gov't officials (especially those feeding into or running the US prison-industrial complex) aren't somehow entitled to EXTRA mourning over anyone else who happens to lose their life.
Agreed - no extra special mourning deserved.

The disturbing aspect, to me anyway - is that this might signal an attempt by one or more collections of miscreants to mimic the "techniques" widely employed by drug kings in Mexico.

Some talk, based on common involvement in some cases by the two DA types murdered, that one potential collection of said miscreants could be connected to a specific "radical skinhead organization."
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:38 AM
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Some talk, based on common involvement in some cases by the two DA types murdered, that one potential collection of said miscreants could be connected to a specific "radical skinhead organization."
Other than Aryan Brothers or whatever it's called, are "skinheads" really that organized nationally?

(Personally, "radical racist pigs" is a better description. Anyone with a knowledge of punk/mod culture would realize that the skinhead movement did NOT start with white racists -- the identity was stolen by the racist boneheads a decade or so later.)
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Other than Aryan Brothers or whatever it's called, are "skinheads" really that organized nationally?

(Personally, "radical racist pigs" is a better description. Anyone with a knowledge of punk/mod culture would realize that the skinhead movement did NOT start with white racists -- the identity was stolen by the racist boneheads a decade or so later.)

So why are White Supremacists any more suspect than any other group? Seems that the skin heads would not be targeting white folks. It seems to be more of an assasination like the Mexican Cartels do than anything else.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:17 PM
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So why are White Supremacists any more suspect than any other group? Seems that the skin heads would not be targeting white folks. It seems to be more of an assasination like the Mexican Cartels do than anything else.
These kind of freaks consider a race traitor to be even worse than the 'inferior' race.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:44 AM
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Agreed - no extra special mourning deserved.

The disturbing aspect, to me anyway - is that this might signal an attempt by one or more collections of miscreants to mimic the "techniques" widely employed by drug kings in Mexico.

Some talk, based on common involvement in some cases by the two DA types murdered, that one potential collection of said miscreants could be connected to a specific "radical skinhead organization."

I agree, except I have yet to see any evidence that they are tied to the skinheads or any other particular group. I am not implying that these people deserve any special mourning.
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When this thing gets unpacked, I'm very curious to see if the Kaufman County Gov't. officials that were killed had given the motivated killer(s) reason(s) to do what was done in such an escallated fashion.

Mike McLelland's boisterously, over-the-top televised news conference that I witnessed after the Asst. D.A.'s murder would have seemed to fan the flames of what happened to him Saturday.

If they find the ppl responsible, and there's no assurance that they will, I'm wondering if the Gov't. officials/LE gave some ppl/element reason(s) like corruption for instance, to go after them as has been done.
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Its no doubt the work of that gang of eight pinko liberals who reside in Texas at present.
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Its no doubt the work of that gang of eight pinko liberals who reside in Texas at present.

absolutely! ( good work, sherlock walgamuth; godless commies are on a rampage )
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Its no doubt the work of that gang of eight pinko liberals who reside in Texas at present.
I have no idea which eight pinkos that you're talking about since there are hundreds of thousands or maybe millions in Texas, but no group has yet been ruled out.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:56 PM
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When this thing gets unpacked, I'm very curious to see if the Kaufman County Gov't. officials that were killed had given the motivated killer(s) reason(s) to do what was done in such an escallated fashion.

Mike McLelland's boisterously, over-the-top televised news conference that I witnessed after the Asst. D.A.'s murder would have seemed to fan the flames of what happened to him Saturday.


If they find the ppl responsible, and there's no assurance that they will, I'm wondering if the Gov't. officials/LE gave some ppl/element reason(s) like corruption for instance, to go after them as has been done.
If the Williams' are tried and convicted, I was right in my first post on one possible motive.

After reading of the timeline of events and a partial transcript from the trial of Eric Williams, the first D.A. shot to death was IMO way over the top in the courtroom in the aggressive language he used characterizing Mr. Williams. Both Hasse and McLelland went after Williams with a vengeance either before, after, or during the trial. It's readily identifiable now how this gave the Williams' sufficient motive to do what they're charged with. Williams lost his job and his license to practice law was revoked in the State of Texas.

Very unfortunate that it had to come to this, and lessons learned all around.


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Disturbing that someone and his wife were killed. Not any more disturbing than anyone else getting killed, though -- gov't officials (especially those feeding into or running the US prison-industrial complex) aren't somehow entitled to EXTRA mourning over anyone else who happens to lose their life.

Have to say that with excessively long prison sentences, no easy expungement of records in some states, comparatively minor offenses being elevated to felonies, cuts in prison educational programs, and the fact that we're keeping 1% of all Americans incarcerated, we're creating an angry underclass with no prospects and little to lose. Those shootings might be a sign that our unjust justice system needs reform, and the sooner the better.

Hope they catch the killers and lock them up. Also hope that people will ask more questions.

So, what would happen if there started to be a rampage, taking out DA's, prison officials, judges and other members of the judicial system? Sounds like you'd be perfectly fine with that.

I am not in any way implying that this murder is more tragic than the murder of an ordinary citizen. I am saying that if the gangs, cartels or whoever start assasinating people in our judicial system and getting away with it, we're fooked.

As far as hoping they catch the killers and lock them up, that's not my hope. I hope the catch them and hang them on National TV. Let the punks thinking about doing such a thing, see them dangling from a rope.
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