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I agree with the e28 BMW. I picked mine up for $1495 back in the late 1990s and put 100k+ on her before her computer went and it was too expensive to fix.
The Diesel (524TD) ones are VERY Slow and have timing belts. The 528e is their gasoline fuel sipper, but it is still a BMW straight six, which is a very smooth and sweet engine. The bodies are the best looking BMWs in my opinion too. They handle great, but they are as hard to work on as an R107 - lots of things to work on - very little space. Your W123 engine bay will look enormous in comparison.
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I would also look for a Volvo 240/740. These cars also hit very high miles and (admittedly not primarily) came with both 4-speed w/overdrive unit and 5-speed manuals.
I thought we had slim pickings here in MA, but I tried searching on CLs near you and got nothing!
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Its more do-able out here than you think - seen quite a few 90/91s for ~$4k
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Crown Vics are OK, but the ones with carbs are terrible to keep running and the FI ones are a days work if/when the fuel pump goes out. It is in the tank, but there is no access hole to get to it so you have to pull the tank out (almost).
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For the life of me, I cannot explain why some are suggesting you buy an old Chevy or Ford Crown Vic?! .
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I used to have a Lincoln Town Car, built on the same Panther platform as the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis. It was inexpensive to buy, inexpensive on parts, and generally easy to work on (except for that time I had to replace the heater core). However, the Panther platform was never offered with a manual transmission, and I averaged 18 mpg over the 60,000 miles I put on the Town Car.
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If it were me....
... I'd waive the requirement for a stick shift MB.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a manual transmission. I currently have 4 in the fleet: 54 Chevy 1/2 ton stepside with 3 on the tree, 68 MGB with 4 speed with OD on 3 and 4, 89 Dodge-Cummins with getrag 5 speed, and a 99 Zed3 with a 5 speed. I've also owned many MB manuals, starting with my first MB, a 190SL in 1974, and the last was a W124 300E five or six years ago. For later MBs, W123 and up, the need for a manual moves from absolutely necessary to a depends.... By the 240D, MB had added enough HP to make the auto a viable alternative. Comparing the MB shift experience to lots of other cars most always left me disapointed in the MB action and ratios choices. By comparison, the 4 speed autos were exceptional compared to most automatics in contemporary vehicles. I enjoy manual transmissions in my cars, but I don't miss them in my MBs, and as I've aged (matured?), I find I prefer them for day to day use. I've moved from W123 chassis cars W124 chassis cars and in my opinion, there is no comparision between them. The W124 is faster, much better handling, and gets superior mileage compared to the W123. It has all the attributes I loved in the w123, and comes with features you'd never find in a W123. The logical upgrade from a W123 diesel is a W124 300D or E300 diesel. Not common, but they are out there in reasonable numbers. Jim
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If you're looking for a cheap, reliable, smooth ride a Crown Vic or Buick anything will fit the bill. My 98 LeSabre was worlds smoother than my w123. Faster, smoother, quieter, had a great stereo stock, better fuel economy, with a roomier interior. And a full brake job was only $200.
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I got voicemail from the insurance company. The car is totaled, which I expected. I called back too late to find out exactly what the numbers come out to.
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For a reliable 80's manual with decent performance go with a e28 535is...I have a 1988 w/170k miles and almost immaculate condition. The last e28 535i I had clocked 290k miles before I sold it to a guy who drove it up to Vancouver (where it is still his daily). Plus the climate control is not as troublesome as the w123.
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Buy it back for a parts car. You will still have money left over.
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Doesn't look like anyone is letting go of the e28 sticks. They seem to be keepers whereas automatics seem to be available somewhat. There must be a reason. Same with e24s. I am in for a long wait....
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Look for an E34 if your going to go BMW...
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