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Old 08-11-2013, 10:59 AM
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The one I'm considering looking over is an 89 so no Bosch injection there.

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Old 08-11-2013, 01:56 PM
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I never knew Ford used a Bosch system in these--even for a short while. I thought they went from card to the EFI, and then to the Sequential EFI which gave a nice boost to power and economy. I had a '79 4 cyl Mustang as a commuter car. I worked with a guy who had the GT with SEFI--he had gobs more power AND used less fuel. Technology was amazing.
Nope. This was a total Bosch system. Every single part of it. And it sure made buying parts for it hard. Most parts books don't even list them.

Ford only had the total Bosch system for a few months; most sources say six. It was if Ford had Bosch design the system and then they built engines with it until they could figure out how to do it themselves.

On the one hand.... The system worked great. I never had any trouble out of it until the fuel pump burned out. On the other hand... Parts are impossible to find and expensive when you do.
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I can't comment with personal experience for that model, but my grandparents always bought Mercury Grand Marquis (at least 3 generations of them) and my father (their son-in-law) drove all of them for long trips and he said that while that model rode decently well, the handling and steering was so bad it was scary to drive (to be fair, he had been driving imports for 20 years before that point, Mercedes, Isuzus, & Subarus). So unless these police suspension upgrades are any good, don't expect curves to be give you anything but motion sickness. Now I do have experience with the last two generations of the Grand Marquis (which can also be found for not much money), and I will say they seem to be pretty reliable and cheap to run, ours is a 96 (was my grandparent's) and is about to hit 200,000 miles and was not well maintained for its first 100,000 miles by the dealer but nothing major has gone wrong with it. Very solid drive train, just the transmission is a very slow. My grandparent's last Grand Marquis was a 2006 and it hasn't done many miles (around 48,000) but overall seems to be a much better built car than the 96, with much better handling characteristics, better transmission and rides better also.
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On my '86 Town Car, good tires run at 36-37 psi along with cop shocks got the handling into acceptable territory. The transmissions tend to go long before the engines, but are inexpensive and not hard to swap. Crownvic.net has a lot of information on these cars.
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Old 08-11-2013, 05:44 PM
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Nope. This was a total Bosch system. Every single part of it. And it sure made buying parts for it hard. Most parts books don't even list them.

Ford only had the total Bosch system for a few months; most sources say six. It was if Ford had Bosch design the system and then they built engines with it until they could figure out how to do it themselves.

On the one hand.... The system worked great. I never had any trouble out of it until the fuel pump burned out. On the other hand... Parts are impossible to find and expensive when you do.
I wasn't arguing--just stating that that was news to me. Still not arguing.
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Old 08-11-2013, 05:54 PM
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Those transmissions will last as long as any slush box as long as it is serviced correctly. Change the fluid and filter about every 30,000 miles and drain the torque converter to change it all. In hot conditions, change it more often. The ATF life is cut in half for about every 15 degrees over normal that it runs.

Since most people don't drive 30,000 miles per year if they will simply change it every fall after the summer high temps, these boxes will last a LONG time.
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:13 PM
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Crown Victoria gussied up. The 5.0L was probably the best engine the Ford line produced from 1981 on.

The transmission and body fitment was their weak points. The electrical switches were "ticky-tacky" and prone to breaking.

Good "cushy" turnpike kind of ride. The engine definitely outperforms its handling. Decent fuel mileage on the road (18-25 MPG) kinda sucky in town (15-18 on a good day).

Cheap to maintain but when the engine is worn out, it is worn out.

Good "drive to Vegas" car. Made for the highway. Just like sitting in your easy chair watching the mile markers go by.

The Lincoln Town Car without the problematic air ride.

Jim B is the guy to talk to and there's another forum member who drives a Crown Vic.
These panther platform cars can really take it.

Here's a 1985 going through its paces. The 1987 one you are looking at is the last year of ther body style before they got updated in 1986...

To Live and Die in L.A.(1985) - The Car Chase part 2 - YouTube

Look at 2:27 - 2:32 at th3e jump! Stunt man almost broke his back on this one, I heard

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