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Hatterasguy 08-26-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee (Post 3197822)
To be fair the food stamp program is extremely corrupt.

Yeah, I know someone who works on the anti corruption side of the state of CT's program, he is retiring he can't stand it anymore.

elchivito 08-26-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3197828)
If the park service didn't say it then it can't be true.

If it is true, why claim the Park Service said something they didn't?:rolleyes:

Jim B. 08-26-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by link (Post 3197642)
Is the point of the quoted comments that you and your friend would like to see 46 million people die of starvation :confused::confused::confused:

"Starvation is God's way of punishing those that have no faith in Capitalism.
~~ Ron Cobb, Cartoonist.


Geddit:confused:

Botnst 08-26-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3197902)
If it is true, why claim the Park Service said something they didn't?:rolleyes:

You dance around a minor point and ignore the larger point. Why?

t walgamuth 08-26-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 3197855)
Yeah, I know someone who works on the anti corruption side of the state of CT's program, he is retiring he can't stand it anymore.

Well, that proves it.

:confused:

Jim B. 08-26-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3197906)
You dance around a minor point and ignore the larger point. Why?

How come y'all think he is the Fred Astaire of "hoof in mouth disease"?

Skid Row Joe 08-26-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by engatwork (Post 3197581)
Quote:
The Food Stamp Program, administered by the
U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing, this year, the
greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever, to 46 million
people.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
Department of the Interior, asks us "Please Do Not Feed the Animals." Their
stated reason for the policy is because "The animals will grow dependent on
handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves."

That's the funniest thing ever - and so true! :P

I don't believe there's 46 million ppl in America that need USDA Food Stamps......NO WAY at all....

There must be corruption by the simple fact of the doubling of Food Stamp handouts in just 4 years, including any of the illegals receiving them too, since the current regime took over.

Jim B. 08-26-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 3197936)
That's the funniest thing ever - and so true! :P

I don't believe there's 46 million ppl in America that need USDA Food Stamps......NO WAY at all.... Check out how obese and overweight most of the over-fed ppl using Food Stamps are at the grocery. Yuk!

The corruption by the doubling of Food Stamp handouts, including the illegals since the current regime took over, would seem to prove it.

Oh, man! Deja vu! NOT in a good way either...

A long time ago my wifey, now EX - wifey, with English as a second language, (a Peruvian) cooked me a dinner that tasted not too good, after the first bite, and I looked at her and went, "Ewww, Yuk!!"..

And she said screamed INSTANTLY:

"Yuk YOU, N****r!!!"


:eek:

pj67coll 08-27-2013 10:37 AM

Given that the park service has such signs in it's parks, it might be interesting to ask what their "stated" reason for them is. I think it's along the lines of trying to keep animals wild and away from people. For both animals and human safety. But part of that is the implicit realization that when animals become used to humans for food they become dependent on them.

- Peter.

link 08-27-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 3198133)
Given that the park service has such signs in it's parks, it might be interesting to ask what their "stated" reason for them is. I think it's along the lines of trying to keep animals wild and away from people. For both animals and human safety. But part of that is the implicit realization that when animals become used to humans for food they become dependent on them.

- Peter.


WRT the bolded portion above, this is not true. The no-feeding policy is done so that animals don’t approach people. That’s where the problem begins.

A lot of .gov organizations and Native American tribes feed wildlife regularly, especially in the winter months. That is one way to maintain herd size and health, But this maintenance is not done by offering pop corn to a black bear or other wild animals who are near the parking lot. The result of that is that the animals will begin to approach people and then the arm chewing starts….

Once park officials learn that, for example, a bear approaches visitors, the bear is usually killed, else, it will harm visitors. IIRC some who were injured brought suit to the NPS and some have won.... That is why there is sinage.

BobK 08-27-2013 11:02 AM

Wind Cave National Park - Your Safety (U.S. National Park Service)

MTI 08-27-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 3197936)
I don't believe there's 46 million ppl in America that need USDA Food Stamps......NO WAY at all....

Here's the state by state data:

SNAP Current Participation - Persons

TX, CA, FL, NY at the top.

The participation in the SNAP program is likely a much better indicator of where the national economy stands rather than unemployment numbers or job creation numbers, since it tends to indicate how many are living at the level of assistance qualification. The take away is that the growth in jobs is likely at the bottom of the pay scales.

Honus 08-27-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by link (Post 3198145)
WRT the bolded portion above, this is not true. The no-feeding policy is done so that animals don’t approach people. That’s where the problem begins.

A lot of .gov organizations and Native American tribes feed wildlife regularly, especially in the winter months. That is one way to maintain herd size and health, But this maintenance is not done by offering pop corn to a black bear or other wild animals who are near the parking lot. The result of that is that the animals will begin to approach people and then the arm chewing starts….

Once park officials learn that, for example, a bear approaches visitors, the bear is usually killed, else, it will harm visitors. IIRC some who were injured brought suit to the NPS and some have won.... That is why there is sinage.

Don't both reasons apply, though in different degrees? I once was looking to get a bird feeder. The guy at the store said I shouldn't get it unless I intended to keep up with it. He said birds will become to prefer it as a source of food, which only works if I keep it full. I'm sure that the primary reason for rules against feeding animals is to keep them wild, for the reasons you state, but I suspect that another reason might be to avoid dependency. To apply that concept to humans is a bit obscene.

sloride 08-27-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3197848)
How is that?

Plenty of people sell food stamps at less than fifty cents on the dollar for cash. I also was told by a co-worker that he was in line at the grocery store and the person in front of him had some food for his pet and would not be allowed to use the card for that, so they ran to the meat case and added some ground beef to his check out, and stated dog will eat good tonight. Not a big deal but that is how.

sloride 08-27-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 3197904)
"Starvation is God's way of punishing those that have no faith in Capitalism.
~~ Ron Cobb, Cartoonist.


Geddit:confused:

Are you nominating Ron Cob for 2016 presidential race? That is a slogan closer to the truth than hope for change. Or was it hope and change.


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