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Old 08-27-2013, 02:37 PM
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Somehow that does not sound like "extremely corrupt".

So, less corrupt is better corrupt to you?

Corrupt, is corrupt.
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:57 PM
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So, less corrupt is better corrupt to you?

Corrupt, is corrupt.
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Old 08-27-2013, 02:38 PM
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Somehow that does not sound like "extremely corrupt".
It's an "entitlement program" so it mus be.

By contrast, the IGO reported that for FY 2012, the VA had an improper payment rate in excess of 10%; no clear figures on fraudulent claims.
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Actually, we're still waiting for the background facts and figures about how corrupt the current system apparently is. I've done all I can.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:07 PM
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Just trying to determine the source of the statement and perhaps gain some insight into the perception that the SNAP program is extremely corrupt. It must come from somewhere for such a statement to be made with such confidence.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:52 PM
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Probably comes from within -- it matches some preconception and therefore, reinforces what we believe to be true. It happens all the time in politics.
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:14 PM
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The Food Stamp Program, administered by the
U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing, this year, the
greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever, to 46 million
people.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
Department of the Interior, asks us "Please Do Not Feed the Animals." Their
stated reason for the policy is because "The animals will grow dependent on
handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves."
That's the funniest thing ever - and so true!

I don't believe there's 46 million ppl in America that need USDA Food Stamps......NO WAY at all....

There must be corruption by the simple fact of the doubling of Food Stamp handouts in just 4 years, including any of the illegals receiving them too, since the current regime took over.
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:47 PM
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That's the funniest thing ever - and so true!

I don't believe there's 46 million ppl in America that need USDA Food Stamps......NO WAY at all.... Check out how obese and overweight most of the over-fed ppl using Food Stamps are at the grocery. Yuk!

The corruption by the doubling of Food Stamp handouts, including the illegals since the current regime took over, would seem to prove it.
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Given that the park service has such signs in it's parks, it might be interesting to ask what their "stated" reason for them is. I think it's along the lines of trying to keep animals wild and away from people. For both animals and human safety. But part of that is the implicit realization that when animals become used to humans for food they become dependent on them.

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Old 08-27-2013, 10:59 AM
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Given that the park service has such signs in it's parks, it might be interesting to ask what their "stated" reason for them is. I think it's along the lines of trying to keep animals wild and away from people. For both animals and human safety. But part of that is the implicit realization that when animals become used to humans for food they become dependent on them.

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WRT the bolded portion above, this is not true. The no-feeding policy is done so that animals don’t approach people. That’s where the problem begins.

A lot of .gov organizations and Native American tribes feed wildlife regularly, especially in the winter months. That is one way to maintain herd size and health, But this maintenance is not done by offering pop corn to a black bear or other wild animals who are near the parking lot. The result of that is that the animals will begin to approach people and then the arm chewing starts….

Once park officials learn that, for example, a bear approaches visitors, the bear is usually killed, else, it will harm visitors. IIRC some who were injured brought suit to the NPS and some have won.... That is why there is sinage.
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WRT the bolded portion above, this is not true. The no-feeding policy is done so that animals don’t approach people. That’s where the problem begins.

A lot of .gov organizations and Native American tribes feed wildlife regularly, especially in the winter months. That is one way to maintain herd size and health, But this maintenance is not done by offering pop corn to a black bear or other wild animals who are near the parking lot. The result of that is that the animals will begin to approach people and then the arm chewing starts….

Once park officials learn that, for example, a bear approaches visitors, the bear is usually killed, else, it will harm visitors. IIRC some who were injured brought suit to the NPS and some have won.... That is why there is sinage.
Don't both reasons apply, though in different degrees? I once was looking to get a bird feeder. The guy at the store said I shouldn't get it unless I intended to keep up with it. He said birds will become to prefer it as a source of food, which only works if I keep it full. I'm sure that the primary reason for rules against feeding animals is to keep them wild, for the reasons you state, but I suspect that another reason might be to avoid dependency. To apply that concept to humans is a bit obscene.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:22 AM
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I don't believe there's 46 million ppl in America that need USDA Food Stamps......NO WAY at all....
Here's the state by state data:

SNAP Current Participation - Persons

TX, CA, FL, NY at the top.

The participation in the SNAP program is likely a much better indicator of where the national economy stands rather than unemployment numbers or job creation numbers, since it tends to indicate how many are living at the level of assistance qualification. The take away is that the growth in jobs is likely at the bottom of the pay scales.
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