This should be interesting:

ga stand your ground law and alzheimers

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Even if he is not prosecuted, that SOB will have to live the rest of his life knowing he gunned down Grandpa...
People are such idiots.

I believe this is just the natural fallout of all the hyperbole spread by the gun-nut crowd. They speak so loudly and with such conviction about our right to defend ourselves with deadly force, that many people are forgetting to apply common sense to determining when that use of force is warranted.
The default seems to be more often, 'the law says I can, so I will' without regard for whether they should....


When I first glanced at the thread title, my mind immediately jumped to 'New slant... 6 engine....' wish there was. Loved the old slant 6.

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It is much easier, in the light of day (literally in this case) to see what you should or should not have done. If I had run the Quarterback position, I wouldn't have passed in this case or I would have passed, etc, etc. Monday Morning Quarterback is pretty easy a job. An 0400 disturbance and the person uncooperative is not an easy thing to work with. You have no clue at the time if it will turn out to be simply that he was drunk or that the guy is stonned out on something that he could turn violent. I have, in my job seen a lot of violent Alzheimer's patients that should be in a lock-down facility. Some of them, even RNs have to wear a lifeline that they can call help when the patient gets violent. The image you are trying to conjure up is a harmless sweet grandpa that somebody shot down in his rocking chair. What you failed deliberately to mention was that this was a guy who was scaring people at 0400 who don't know who or what is there. It isn't always easy to know. Considering the world we live in today where you could stop for a broken down car only to be jacked, well, it isn't difficult to see why the resident didn't feel good.

As to cops, they are after the fact and only good for writing up reports so you can claim insurance. Hell, people have reported things and cops are too tied up to bother. I have had to practically hand them a suspect before they charged him. I had to do all the leg work while they said "Well, we probably can't find him, yada, yada, yada.". Had it happen where we called the cops and told them that someone was breaking into a car in the parking lot and they didn't want to bother.

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They take it so far that it becomes almost a duty to use deadly force, even when other means of defense are available.My BMW has a slant 6.

Beat me to it. So does mine. Far superior to the MOPAR version, which I had once in a Dodge van.

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I prefer the term Gun Enthusiast.

Actually the Gun Nuts/Enthusiast are forced to defend themselves due to being lumped together with the Real Nuts, Stupid’s and Mentally Ill that do something bad with a Gun.
And, the News Media does not mind inferring that all Gun Owners are a similar threat.

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Who was taking care of the old guy? Hard to call this one.

Idiotic mistakes are not connected to any hyperbole. The left will try to force any connection they can.

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THE LEFT? WTF? This has nothing to do with dang lefties. This is gun-nuttery on steroids. Buncha weenies.

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Guys going to have a hard time demonstrating ' fear for his life'.

Why? If the guy was advancing towards him after he tried to chase him off, it is looking good. OTOH, if the guy was walking away from his door and was shot in the back, not so good.

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Stand your ground laws are fantastic, the media portrays them poorly because they have an agenda.

They prevent you from going to jail or having to lose your house and rights to fight a several year long court case, if say you gunned down a robber who was trying to get into your kids room. Of if your at a gas station and someone tries to jack your car with a toddler in the back seat...

Many people who have had a legitimate DGU have lost just about everything in states without stand your ground laws and DA's that hate gun owners.

Like any law they can be abused, but that doesn't mean they don't serve a legitimate purpose. Although I think cases of abuse are exceedingly rare.

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Neither of your examples have anything to do with the SYG laws. They are covered by the Castle doctrine. SYG has to do with being out in a public place. Such as being in a park where you see a gun man in the distance. With SYG you can stand your ground and kill the person instead of turning and seeking cover or leavjng the area.

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Both of my examples do fall under the law, but stand your ground also covers public places as well.

Stand your ground has nothing to do with range, if you pop someone far off your still in trouble. Must be an imminent threat.

They allow people who have legit shoots to not lose everything defending it.

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