I had no idea of this. The so called NPR of gun clubs, not the NRA. Interesting that the view on the issue - can span the entire political spectrum - in the San Francisco bay area at least!

The club praised Gov. Jerry Brown when he vetoed seven gun-control bills in the last legislative session, including one by Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, that would have required gun owners to register their low-capacity rifles as assault weapons if they had detachable magazines. New sales of such weapons would have been banned.

More regulations on lawful gun owners "are overprescribed political placebos that fail to cure ... the root causes of violence," the gun club said in a position statement. Instead of "window-dressing 'solutions' like so-called 'assault weapons' bans and magazine capacity restrictions," the group argued, government should back "mitigation for violence prevention: stronger mental health care, addressing poverty, homelessness and unemployment."


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Liberals find comfort level in 'NPR of gun clubs' - SFGate

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The right likes to think it has all the guns, and we're perfectly happy keeping it that way.

Their forum is an interesting place. You will find people of every persuasion. Independents, middle of the road democrats, and everything from anarchists to hard boiled old time socialists. They all share the common bond of supporting the second amendment, but the lock-step NRA definition of what constitutes 2A support is not necessarily viewed as the only option.
Unlike most other gun forums, people don't get banned for having contrary opinions. They don't suffer trolls easily, and get a fair amount of them who come in from the righty gun forums, sign up and immediately start spewing hate. They don't last long.

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I am often branded as an anti-gun person by people who think that just because I have one view on something I must fit into the stereotype they have been fed.

In my line of work (entertainment) firearms are often used and the most amazing display of firearms is only a phone call away. All of the guns are real but all have been modified for picture work in that they cannot load or fire a real round. And the folks that provide such a service? You won't find a lot of right wingers among them.

And while I am quite manic when it comes to safety I am a walking disaster area when stacked up against our Armorers. NO horseplay is allowed and they can even overrule the Director in this area. Hey! I also have insurance guys looking over my shoulder so this is a part of that.

I think the right wing claim to be the be all and end all of firearms in the US is just something a political hack came up with long ago. Back in the 50's a guy here in Oklahoma told me that he always ran on The Three G's with that being God, Guns, and Gays. Always be for the first two and against the last one and if the area is full of low education types you will never lose!

That forum is full of ironies.
See them discuss having a medical marijuana card vs carrying a handgun.
Or the Rachel Maddow threads. RM loves to talk about polls with 90% favoring gun control. And she's on...........MSNBC.
By definition (liberal) most of them voted twice for a guy that promised to broadcast health care negotiations live on CSpan and live on the internet, so it is no surprise.

At only 1k members its a tiny club. Heck the CCDL which is not a large group has over 11,000 members in CT.

Their views on firearms ownership are in line with the CCDL and the NRA to a large extent. They just don't want the baggage that some NRA members bring.

Having said that the NRA is still the best group in the US in terms of blocking anti 2A laws. As I have always said every single gun owner should be a member even if they don't agree with everything they do.

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and voted twice for a guy that Wayne Lapierre twice said would take away all the guns . . .

He's going to. You just wait.

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the whole 4 rules of gun handling apply to prop guns as well. Treat all firearms as if they are loaded, with this being tied for first with the other 3 rules

Awesome. The more good gun owners the better. I don't have to agree with their politics to be their friend or welcome them.

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Most props are just props. That is they are totally fake and usually made out of rubber or some other substance that will not harm you if you bump into it.

The guns are real and the brass really does eject at 600 degrees F. I have seen the roof of a Rolls-Royce pock marked by someone using the car for a cover while firing an AK-47 across the roof. Everflex roofs don't come cheap, and this could have been avoided if the Director had been paying attention to the Armor guy.

It is also possible to strain a muscle if you just grab up a Browning caliber 30 without knowing they weigh 31 pounds.

But at the heart of it you are most correct. Some of the guns fire wax bullets and it is always important to deal with them as if they are firing the real thing.

YES!

I knew a guy that belonged to a gun club that was run by a bunch of old Marines. They did not allow ANY assault weapons on their range as they saw no sporting reason for anyone to own one.

They wanted gun owners to be good citizens and know gun safety. And as right wing as a lot of these old guys were I never heard any of them have anything nice to say about the NRA. They just saw them as a bunch of lackys for the gun companies.

And if you wanted to get these guys really wound up just bring up the subject of private militias. They could not say enough bad things about them as they thought they gave all gun owners a bad name.

NRA has grown a great deal over the past year. Obama has been a blessing to the organization.

Act of Valor filmed a lot of scenes with live fire.
Act of Valor: Live Fire with Shane Hurlbut, ASC - YouTube

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Yes, but Act of Valor used a lot of real military people who already had the training and knew how to deal with live ammo and real guns. This is different from someone who shows up and has never seen the prop they are expected to use while portraying an expert.

And the acting in Act of Valor, which started life as a training film, was very impressive for non-actors. None of the real SEALS were able to use their real names but that's not a problem in Hollywood where no one does. Hopefully they can pick up some work in the future as tech experts or even on screen talent.

An Act of Valor sequel has been announced with Matt Damon mentioned, but time will tell. I am sure the film will be made, but Damon might or might not be in it. Until the Director says action you never know who is really going to star.