Back when people lived as part of nature it was good social work, fun, sharing and entertainment just to be alive. Now they are a bunch of money grubbers.

A birth is money for corporations and death is money for corporations and everything in between is money for corporations. Animals dying to funnel money to corporations and to feed people is repulsive, dirty and sick and all about money, ugly.

A group of people who love each other and eat hamburgers together after killing and packing a cow is something I wish everyone could experience, beautiful.

I just read a book called The Vegetarian Myth. It was informative and entertaining and showed radically different views of some thinking about people and food and world problems. It is a good way to spend a few bucks and a few hours of your time.

Its hard to "un-know" something. When I had my first experience with production kill floor of cattle in Kansas I decided there were some things in life that I didn't need to know about.

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I saw Fast Food Nation and the last ten minutes were enough for me. I can get enough venison through barter with friends, and know a few farmers who raise their own animals. I don't need that much beef anyways.

kosher or halal means only that the animals are killed by cutting their throats without anaesthetics, not exactly animal friendly.

Rob