No my analogy is closer as the parent will still pay the bill but will not increase the limit like the teenager wants. This wannabee teenager who cannot stop spending without someone responsible stopping them would cripple us further. Not raising the debt ceiling does not stop us from paying our bills.

That the teenager is the Government and taxpayers are the parent doesn't make much sense, since taxpayers aren't united in their distaste for the use of credit and the teenager Government isn't any less or more responsible than the parent taxpayers.

Well on one hand all the dopes in DC have to do is pace a reasonable budget and the dopes that vote them in need to hold them to it.

Instead half of the dopes don't care, and the other half are shinning up their AR's and MRE's in the hopes of being able to recreate the Walking Dead when the world wide financial markets melt down.


So lets see in one scenario I'm sitting on my boat drinking a Dark N Stormy, in the other I'm roasting fresh rat over a fire and trying to dodge bullets. Some of us are trying to run a ^&*(^&(%*(*^&% business here and don't want to be eating GD rat stew because the Glenn Becks and Tea Party people want to reenact Europe in 1945. I just want the &*(^^&*((&* country to run without all these political manufactured crises.

If the IRS were smart they would halt the tax refund checks in about a week and light a fire underneath the idiots in DC.

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Yeah only around forty nine percent are united against runaway government spending. The other fifty one percent say give me more free stuff, and I'll keep voting for you, and by the way raise taxes on those who are working.

Pardon me for asking, but can you back up those numericals? And if you include anyone actually making money some how in 'working', who else would you propose to tax, the indigent?

So it is not the fault of Congress, which according to the US Constitution it is, but it is the fault of those without jobs that Congress keeps spending money?

I seem to recall that under Clinton the nation debt was finally down to zero, and then, eight years later, it is way up there and the economy is in a shambles.

So those that voted to put Bush into office did this to us?

You should have been with me as my mouthpiece, on my last visit to the Oldsmobile dealer's service department in Oakland.

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Your dreaming, the national debt was no where near zero during the Clinton administration. I guess your next dream will be that when H. C. gets elected that it will go to zero again. Who held the congress when the national debt really exploded in 07 and 08? A few people got let go at MSNBC lately, I am sure they have an opening for someone willing to spew those facts.

The numbers don't lie. Keep living in your dream world. Reality seems to disagree with you.

No problem is solved by turning a blind eye to the facts, and all the spin in the world will not change history. I understand that some people have trouble admitting they made a mistake, but that does not mean the rest of us have to live with it.

yeah only the ignorant taxpayers think more debt is good

OK, so forget partisan stuff.
Is the continual increase in our national debt a good thing, or a bad thing?
If its a bad thing, how do you propose to reduce it?
Keep it simple.

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All you have to do is google the national debt. In 1992 it was 4.5 trillion, and in 2000 it was 5.7 Trillion with a T. You might want to send off that job application to MSNBC with a copy of this thread as the love someone who will defend a lie to the end.

Gold bars, South African krugerands, cut diamonds, ammunition, gasoline and diesel fuel, and REAL silver coins.

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1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

Bad.

Fixing it is simple, the government needs to bring the budget into balance threw reduced spending and increased taxation.

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That might work for you, personally, but what about the nation?

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