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Old 03-24-2014, 07:24 PM
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Koch Urinates on Vets

Veterans Ask Walker To Veto Just-Passed Asbestos Bill | Wisconsin Public Radio Do recall that this was the state where Koch bought the Governor in his election, anyone surprised about this:
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Several business groups reported lobbying in favor of the plan, including 3M and Koch Industries. The bill passed the Assembly on a party-line vote.
And here is the justification that makes it OK to keep the profits rather than compensate the victims of it:
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“Every company that has produced asbestos is going to go bankrupt if we're not putting some control on this pot of money,” Ott said
It's our pot of money and we are not giving it back to those we harmed to steal it Asbestos Is Still Killing People | New Republic As if there wasn't enough dirty asbestos money and problems yet, Koch goes on to urinate on the environment and the people of the northwoods backing this: Why the Koch Brothers' Group Is Backing a Candidate in Northern Wisconsin Which had a bit of the magic fiber Why the Koch Brothers' Group Is Backing a Candidate in Northern Wisconsin But all is well because the party faithful are bought and paid for and legislate obstacles out of the way, given the ALEC funding WI GOP Marches in Lockstep with ALEC Agenda, Voting Records Show | PR Watch But don't want to own up to it: In the Midst of an Investigation, WI GOP Fast-Tracks "Dark Money" Bill | PR Watch ALEC also backs KXL, big surprise: PR Watch | Reporting on spin and disinformation since 1993. If Vets are thrown under the bus, should the rest of you be upgrading your umbrella for the golden shower?

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Old 03-25-2014, 08:28 AM
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Hmm.... taking queues from Harry Reid?

Reid is a savvy politician, albeit an extremely goofy acting one, who realizes the political value of producing villains. I don't doubt that Koch's a villain. There are plenty of villains on both sides.

Just more politics that serves to obscure the real problems from those who will bite the bait.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:37 AM
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Ever see anyone suffering from a severe case of asbestosis? Imagine being waterboarded every day if you want to get a hint of their "life"...
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:46 AM
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I'm enjoying the astute understanding on the part of message massagers that attaching the words, "Kock Brothers" and "Tea Party" to any political controversy is a major factor influencing public perception.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:57 AM
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I'm enjoying the astute understanding on the part of message massagers that attaching the words, "Kock Brothers" and "Tea Party" to any political controversy is a major factor influencing public perception.
Which one of those articles had those? Or was ^ unrelated to the OP?
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:05 AM
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It's a trend I see in political news reporting and analysis. The Repos have their own memes -- like "class warfare". You know the drill.

Perhaps it is not a trend but my own bias. I don't know.
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Old 03-25-2014, 12:13 PM
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So how do you feel about the vets? Should this new law be signed that limits their right to recover?
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Old 03-25-2014, 12:31 PM
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I dunno. I worked in a USN engine room with a lot of asbestos lagging. It probably means I am a potential plaintiff.

OTOH, I signed-up knowing it was a potentially life-threatening endeavor.

I'm kind of undecided.

Now if asbestos were intentionally introduced to cause me malicious and grave injury I would like to have a legal avenue. But if it was the best practices of the day then I am not so sure.

I think I could be on a jury for this. I'm willing to hear arguments, counsellor.
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Old 03-25-2014, 12:39 PM
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I think negligence or willful blindness or whatever, has already long since been established. The question here, if for those who can prove having been harmed, should we limit their ability to be compensated to protect corporate profits and viability?
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If you frame it that way, String'em up!!!

I'm guessing there's another perspective. Care to offer it?
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Old 03-25-2014, 12:52 PM
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I'll listen.
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Old 03-25-2014, 12:56 PM
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Veterans Ask Walker To Veto Just-Passed Asbestos Bill | Wisconsin Public Radio Do recall that this was the state where Koch bought the Governor in his election, anyone surprised about this: And here is the justification that makes it OK to keep the profits rather than compensate the victims of it: It's our pot of money and we are not giving it back to those we harmed to steal it Asbestos Is Still Killing People | New Republic As if there wasn't enough dirty asbestos money and problems yet, Koch goes on to urinate on the environment and the people of the northwoods backing this: Why the Koch Brothers' Group Is Backing a Candidate in Northern Wisconsin Which had a bit of the magic fiber Why the Koch Brothers' Group Is Backing a Candidate in Northern Wisconsin But all is well because the party faithful are bought and paid for and legislate obstacles out of the way, given the ALEC funding WI GOP Marches in Lockstep with ALEC Agenda, Voting Records Show | PR Watch But don't want to own up to it: In the Midst of an Investigation, WI GOP Fast-Tracks "Dark Money" Bill | PR Watch ALEC also backs KXL, big surprise: PR Watch | Reporting on spin and disinformation since 1993. If Vets are thrown under the bus, should the rest of you be upgrading your umbrella for the golden shower?
Isn't that the same state that is sending millions back to the voters through cost savings realized by Walkers plans?
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Not all the voters I think if you look at it he did a structural deficit to look good politically in hopes of being re-elected. He did refuse millions (maybe billions?) from the feds for high speed rail and health care expansion. The childless poor there have no health care to this day.
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I'll listen.
Walking on one leg takes us in circles.

Nah, I'll let the politicians duke it out. I don't think I can raise enough concern to give a damn.
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Old 03-25-2014, 01:07 PM
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There will be no duking, that place is one party control. The only possible controls seem to be the courts trying to apply constitutionality and how close they get to the fringe of rebellion.

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