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Old 04-14-2014, 06:59 PM
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The CA govt is out of control! I'm trying to get an exhaust and some tuning for my new truck (pick up power and fuel mileage), and half of the tuners I've talked to can't/won't help of ship to anyone with a CA billing zip code or CA shipping address!

Seems the CA EPA has been cracking down lately - and it's easier for tuners/dealers/sellers to say "No Sales" instead of carrying CA complaint tunes and parts.

Thinking a move out of this state may be in order! I hear Texas pretty lax gun/smog/laws...

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Yeah, it must be tough to live where urban smog determines pollution policy.

Move to Nevada.
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:22 PM
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Dude you did not live in CA 25+ years ago during the years before the switch to unleaded. You could not go on a 30 minute run, come home, and not hack brown stuff out of your lungs. You'd take a shower and the water would be dark.
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:38 PM
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I can remember driving down from Big Bear. The layer of smog over the valley was vile. I'm thankful for CARB every time I visit. Air still socks but it socks a lot less than it used to.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:23 PM
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I the mid nineties I worked for a company based in Irvine, I can remember some drives to and from the airport that were through a brown sky.

In the late seventies I worked for a company based in Fullerton. I spent a month in the Buena Park Hotel. I would get up every morning and look out over Knott's Berry Farm. The last morning I was there I opened the drapes to see for the first time mountains in the distance. A Santa Anna storm had blown the crap out.

I understand the problem they dealt with, but I'm not convinced that they haven't taken it to the extreme.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:26 PM
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Yeah, it must be tough to live where urban smog determines pollution policy.

Move to Nevada.
Just don't forget to pay your grazing fees.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:38 PM
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The CA govt is out of control! I'm trying to get an exhaust and some tuning for my new truck (pick up power and fuel mileage), and half of the tuners I've talked to can't/won't help of ship to anyone with a CA billing zip code or CA shipping address!

Seems the CA EPA has been cracking down lately - and it's easier for tuners/dealers/sellers to say "No Sales" instead of carrying CA complaint tunes and parts.

Thinking a move out of this state may be in order! I hear Texas pretty lax gun/smog/laws...
If half say no, half are saying yes?

Is the issue here that you can get what you want, but not at the price you want?
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:52 PM
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If half say no, half are saying yes?

Is the issue here that you can get what you want, but not at the price you want?
But if you try some time,
you just might find.....
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:54 PM
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Move to Austin. Everyone there's from CA and you don't have to deal with, you know, Texans
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To many laws and hippies out their. If I didn't have my business I'd leave CT as well, same problem. Except we have wealthy Euro loving liberal elites instead of the hippies, and hipsters who are their spawn.
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:36 PM
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To many laws and hippies out their. If I didn't have my business I'd leave CT as well, same problem. Except we have wealthy Euro loving liberal elites instead of the hippies, and hipsters who are their spawn.
What's your major objection to CT, other than you have to pay higher taxes (good schools, good public transport, etc are worth something) and that you can't own all of the bang-sticks that you want?
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Old 04-14-2014, 10:58 PM
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:11 AM
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The CA govt is out of control! I'm trying to get an exhaust and some tuning for my new truck (pick up power and fuel mileage), and half of the tuners I've talked to can't/won't help of ship to anyone with a CA billing zip code or CA shipping address!
What exactly are you trying to get shipped? How do you ship tuning? 2 good ways to tune your vehicle are to get it on a dyno or do road runs and datalog. What vehicle is this for?
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:16 AM
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What's your major objection to CT, other than you have to pay higher taxes (good schools, good public transport, etc are worth something) and that you can't own all of the bang-sticks that you want?
Depends. As a gun store owner, I'd rather have people being able to own more guns so I can sell more guns. If I had kids, send them elsewhere to better schools. If I used public transport, I'd want that improved and screw the rest. I have no kids so close all the schools you want and give me the change. My father, for example could care less about recreation stuff. As long as you allow him to do business with no restrictions, he could care less about personal freedoms and playthings. So depends on who's sacred cow you are talking about.

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