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Old 05-30-2014, 06:54 PM
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Again, then it's an unsafe situation for all. The local government could also be responsible for neglecting such a hazardous traffic engineering situation. Still, how different would the situation be with an autonomous vehicle versus a human driver?

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Again, then it's an unsafe situation for all. The local government could also be responsible for neglecting such a hazardous traffic engineering situation. Still, how different would the situation be with an autonomous vehicle versus a human driver?
The depth of the pockets of the people responsible for making the decisions, or writing the code to make the decisions.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:51 PM
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Ahhh man, I was ready with an answer for a RWD car going at 70, but now I'm lost!
OK, just for you, and only this one time ... RWD!! fire away!!
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:13 PM
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Assuming a gas car, fuel lines running under the floor. Or the roof-mounted sensors to render the computer blind.

Assuming I owned a self-driving car (rather than renting one), I'd probably also put in a switch that disconnects power to the main fuel pump or the motor contactor in case of an electric car. Everything needs a Big Red Button(tm). Dave Bowman lobotomizing HAL-9000 one circuit board at the time, is one of my favorite movie scenes.
Excellent choice. Start the vehicle on fire at highway speed with the fuel pump flaming the fire as furiously as possible since the engine computer demands it to compensate for lost speed. A roast to you But sure, there should be fail safes. Like a person behind the wheel that can participate at will. However, the idea of a vehicle shutting down in traffic is not so pretty.
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:24 PM
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It's a serious question. The car is doing 50 on a rural 2-lane road. Kid runs out into the road. Choices:
(1) Hit the kid
(2) Go into the oncoming lane, where a large truck is approaching
(3) Go into a ditch where there's a culvert coming up

Quick! It will be an interesting problem at the intersection of law and programming.
What does the human driver do?
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What does the human driver do?
Irrelevant since the actions of the human driver aren't likely to be the subject of a product liability case.
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:37 PM
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Irrelevant since the actions of the human driver aren't likely to be the subject of a product liability case.
So you would support lawsuit in that case when the same incident wouldn't result in a lawsuit otherwise?
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So you would support lawsuit in that case when the same incident wouldn't result in a lawsuit otherwise?
I wouldn't support it. I'm saying it will happen in the current legal climate. It changes from an issue of negligence to an issue of product liability.
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Well if I ever get schmucked by one of them I will sure as heck sue!!!
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OK, just for you, and only this one time ... RWD!! fire away!!
Well, I'd obviously shoot out the fuel lines. Duh.
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Excellent choice. Start the vehicle on fire at highway speed with the fuel pump flaming the fire as furiously as possible since the engine computer demands it to compensate for lost speed. A roast to you But sure, there should be fail safes. Like a person behind the wheel that can participate at will. However, the idea of a vehicle shutting down in traffic is not so pretty.
He'd be a YouTube sensation!
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Well, I'd obviously shoot out the fuel lines. Duh.

He'd be a YouTube sensation!
I do not follow your train of thought. How does RWD factor into that? And is anybody going to address the issue of suicide bombers no longer needed as a physical presence??

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Mannequins make the best suicide bombers - no brains, low learning curve. Guided missile, guided roller, gotta go with the times.
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What will the legal driving age be? Can kids get to school in their own car? No more busses? What about commercial trucks? CA to Boston with no driver?

But my number one question is: what is a reboot like at hiway speed? Automated voice: "Rebooting, assume crash position."
HAH!! Exactly right. Oh yeah, I'm ready to trust my life and anyone who rides in my car to a computer.

On a related note, did you know that in about 40 years, "they" are going to perfect sex robots? Won't be able to tell them from a real person. Male or female, take your pick. Will be able to do housework as well. I can hardly wait.
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Old 05-31-2014, 01:29 AM
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and this is different than humans, how?
Humans err but somehow I'm willing to trust myself more than a computer. I don't want to get overconfident but I've put in quite a few miles in me day - no fatalities, no injuries. Couple of low speed fender benders.
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HAH!! Exactly right. Oh yeah, I'm ready to trust my life and anyone who rides in my car to a computer.

I suspect the same was said when cars and plqnes were introduced. How many would trust them over a horse and buggy? The car has improved just a little over the last 100 years or so. So has air travel. No reason to believe the same will not happen for automated ones.

I was told by a 777 pilot the thing can take off, fly and land with out him e en touching the controls.

Technology marches on.

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