JP and I actually agree on a bunch of things, we just don't always admit it. :D

The postmaster will probably get the Postal Inspectors involved. Those guys have a fantastic conviction rate. They are patient and careful about building a case. The thief carrier is in deep trouble.

Or if his union rep is really good he will receive a two week suspension with pay of course.

You did the right thing Jon. "F" the thief. Govt. employees who steal ought to go to jail & lose pensions. USPS or IRS, makes no difference. And there's any number of thieves in the IRS.
OI: Highlights - U.S. Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA)
USDOJ: US Attorney's Office - EASTERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
I had a credit card replacement stolen in the mail system. Knew nothing about it until I get a credit card bill? Had to be a postal worker, imo.

Side Bar:
Please don't take my remarks about smoking personally. To be clear, IMO, anyone who smokes cigarettes is a loser. The average pack a day smoker burns up the better part of a car payment in a month. A few decades of that and the health issued start appearing. A double whammy for most cigarette smokers. Weed? another story for another time.

I smoked for 30 years or so (15 to 45). I dodged the grim reaper's reach 22 years ago with a quintuple bypass. :o

If E-cigs or variants are free of health risks, have at it. I do have a question about what effects if any inhaling the vapors these products produce. I assume they cause some positive effects, or else why use them?
Any research show negative effects?

Just out of curiosity was this shop from my neck of the woods? (Youngstown, Warren area of Ohio) ?

I know theres a few places around here, one that specializes in it I think.

Aren't the Canucks ending home delivery of mail in 2016?

It happens at times...:D

Forgive me if my response post yesterday seemed a bit snarky...I've been forced to justify myself on this decision more times that I care to admit to some idiotic family members...My brother can be a real PITA.

There are a number of studies that are out, that show the positive effects of vaping versus smoking. Following the links I provided earlier in the thread will show the studies and their results.

The ingredients of the juice are as follows...

Vegetable Glycerin (aka VG) Used in smog machines
Propylene Glycol (aka PG) Used in asthmatic inhalers
Nicotine Nicotine has never been proven addictive to humans, cigarettes have.
Flavoring or flavor extracts. Found in multiple items you consume daily.

Those same ingredients, plus more, is in Nicotrol, a smoking cessation inhaler.

The biggest opponents of e-cigs, those that testify against their use, are funded largely in part by Big Tobacco. BT views this as a massive cut in their profits, and will do anything to stop it. The government is also against it because under current laws, they cannot be taxed as tobacco items, since there is no tobacco in it.

I get a bit passionate about this since I've been able to quit smoking because of it.

No. The company is in Miamisburg, just south of Dayton. The majority of her customer base is from those small smoke shops that litter the area.

So you saying he is a vaper? And was stealing for personal use?

Camels? My Dad went to a doctor and told him he smoked Camels.....the doctor was very surprised.......he told Dad most of his clients who smoked Camels were long dead.

Bingo!!

Theft in my city is a misdemeanor up to $20.00 - simple citation written. Court date optional. If the citation/fine is paid in the $200+ hundreds of dollars, it goes away. Any number above that == going to jail/fingerprinting/mug shot/bond set/AND the all important COURT DATE.

Besides the USPS's internal affairs dept. and mail-theft, the possible added-bonus is getting a guy like that fired from receiving any accumulated bennies etc. from the USPS, i.e. the taxpayers. He did it to himself - I would take it all the way to the felony it is. Huge fine, jail-time, probation - you get the idea....

It's better than cigarettes, that's for sure. In the other thread you mentioned your health was much better now -- I am sincerely really glad to hear that JP, figured it would get caught in the clutter. This sounds like a really really weird situation, even just the chance two of you meeting at the same place same time is really coincidental.

I've had my fair share of issues with the usps. Most notably was after ordering a nice ring for the lady, it somehow "disappeared" at a NYC processing center. After a couple weeks I opened a claim and miraculously it appeared within 6 hours. Not surprisingly, the jeweler'a address was on the package as return. Would not have shipped usps if I knew they were going to use it (learned that lesson). They would be a heck of a lot competitive if they fixed issues like that, not to mention are often more expensive and slower than competition.


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I've always shipped USPS unless it was a particularly bulky object. No issues other than one item that took 2 weeks for delivery when it should have taken three days. And they've been a lot better as far as delivering correctly to my building and the super's office than either FedEx or UPS, both of which have had instances of serious fail.

Actually, you're missing the bigger picture.

He won't be charged with theft in your city, or in JP's.

MAIL theft is a FEDERAL crime anywhere within the US under Title 18, U.S.C. Section 1708 refers to mail theft generally, and the next section applies to those who work for the postal service:
I never practiced Federal Criminal Law, so I don't know how it's couched, but seeing that there is a possibility of a five year prison sentence I'm going to say it's a felony. ;)

Same here. I always use USPS. I've never had any significant problems. One time the carrier forgot to pick up my boxes that I left on the front porch.

UPS on the other hand...lost a set of Bilsteins for my 420SEL, beat the hell out of a box and lost me a set heat shield/crush washers for the 300SD...

Ahhh in their defense, the morons at WorldPac put two coil springs in the box and then just threw a bag of washers in there. I mean..thats just dumb.

If that doesn't stick - we have back-ups - Federal crime.

I don't quite get what you're saying -- what CK posted is how he would be charged with a federal crime.

Not to pick on any service. Ups is in Canada as well. There was a card in the mailbox this morning. Ups claims they were unable to deliver our parcel because we do not exist basically.

The parcel showed up yesterday. I have no ideal of how bright this organization is. How do you send a card that arrives to someone that does not exist?

If the item was mailed by Erwin Schrodinger's cat, it may or may not have existed.

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""It's all about how your boogaloo situation stands, ya understand?"

~~Wolfman Jack "Clap for the Wolfman"

Always that interesting point of view.

The Driver controls the Vehicle and the Driver has responsibility for what He does with the Vehicle.

Who would have known that the Drivers Company had a One Ticket Policy that would get Him Fired?

Certainly the Drive know the Company Policy. Why didn't the Driver take better care of Himself?

Did you ask them that :D?

X 2 -To say the least~! lolz.......:D

Substitute the word; *FedEx* and that's exactly my experience with those miserable mfs.

What color is your parachute> lolz~!

I don't like Fedex either. Fedex thorws the Package on the Porch, rings the Door Bell and is gone before I reach the Door.

My Porch is 10 feet from a busy Sidewalk. Anyone could wonder over and take the Package.

Hey, JP, it's been a few weeks, just kind of wondering if there's any update on this letter carrier.

Is his picture up in the post office yet? :D :D :D


Hope you had a great 4th, everyone!

This! This right here!

Soooo many people blame delivery services when the seller packs it improperly. There are listed guidlines for packaging and if you're really curious, you can read the test procedures for packed items. They WILL receive multiple bumps, drops, and vibrations. You're paying $15 to have something sent cross country, it's going to be handled by sorting machinery.

If you want something to be delivered delicately, hire a private delivery company to drive it out there for big bucks.

I've been told that he has been reassigned until the investigation is complete. In other words, he's no longer delivering in my area, and may actually be in the package sort room or on unemployment. Either way, he's no longer stealing my stuff.

Thanks for asking, and yes, we had a great 4th.

Ah, reassigned...so the USPS has perhaps adopted the catholic church method of dealing with criminals? ;) :P

Fed Ex ground is still the worst I've experienced, which is not to say that UPS doesn't have their share of flubs; overall I think I generally have the best luck with USPS.

My most recent Fed Ex experience...I ordered some various smaller/lighter parts from an MB dealer (they actually beat the prices at PP when shipping was figured in) and the order included valve cover gaskets for an M112. The box was about 8x8x30 as I recall and it took two weeks to get to me -- and it was in awful shape when it arrived, mushed on one end, deformed and beat up, with tape all over it. According to the driver, the delay (and all the extra tape) was due to it being opened for inspection by Fed Ex not once, but twice. Apparently this was in part because it was a large box to be so light. And that's justified...how?

At least I did get all of the parts, and I made the driver wait while I inventoried the box. Still, I'll take incompetence over thievery, I suppose. ;)

It would seem so. However, with theft being less of a crime than pedo, I'm ok with the result so far. :)

Also when dealing with personell problems it is a touchy deal to discuss why people are discharged etc. A lot of stuff is legally private.

In my neck of the woods, the same Post Office had two employees fired (don't know if it went further...as in; Prison time, probation...). Both ended up written up in the funny papers.

First one that was fired? Got caught (don't know how) with a whole assortment of those "scratch & sniff" cards that fall out of (and in some cases, torn out of) magazines. Lose your job over stink-papers? Some of that stuff smells so bad, I'd have given the idiot a medal, but in this case, theft is theft.

Next idiot? Got fired for NOT DELIVERING his load. Can't say anything good about that.

Now, elchivito throwing the bus driver under the bus? Good deal and good riddance. Companies pay for insurance. So, if the insurance company tells the company "Your rates are based on certain, expected rules to be followed" and the company issue a rule that says, "Don't drive like you stole it," then it's a company policy. I'm sure there are webinars, handbooks and whatnots that have to be attended and passed. To say one thing and do another, then throw in truthfullness, or in this case, a lack of it, the bus driver deserves to have the door slamed on his @55 as he's walking out the door. It doesn't matter if he was speeding on a private lot, public street or doing DOH-nuts in the Company's parking lot. He's VIOLATING COMPANY RULES.

As for JP, if the twink is a USPS employee, thieves deserve a swift kick in the nuts or clam, and a hard kick in the crack, out the door. Federal rules and regulations? You're a "special stupid" to go rogue with their rules.

As for shipping preferences? I wouldn't ship USPS any more. Even though I paid for the "insurance" - a Christmas present to a BIL's PO BOX, was never received. When I called the Post Office in question, I was told that "...our sorter PROBABLY put the package notice in the wrong box and there's not a thing we can do about it." F*CKIN' Jerk. A "Richard Petty" autographed cap (w/picture of signing taking placed) and some assorted items...not financially devastating, but nonetheless, something that shouldn't have been filtched...

FedEx & UPS? Crap happens...but I've never had a package go AWOL...

BTW...any Union that backs up theft...I'd be more than happy to go looking for an "Equalizer" to straighten out the "books" for that place... :eek: :D

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