You ratted him out. You have not provided any evidence that you or your family were being personally endangered by his speeding. If you wanted the cult to move on, you should have figured out a way to fight the cult directly, not make the bus driver a pawn in your game.

Provided any evidence? What are we - in court?
We are talking here about a graveled county road that is not quite two passenger cars' width with deep bar ditches on both sides and a bus loaded with 50 people going 40 miles an hour. The side opposite my land is open range with grazed cattle on it year round. Cattle don't watch for traffic, especially on a road that had never been used for much of anything. The guy was endangering my fences and my allotment renter's cattle on the other side, not to mention the lives of his passengers. You bet your ass I ratted him out, but HE got himself fired. I am surprised you can't logically understand that, all emotions aside.

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That sounds a lot like a road I drove to work on every day for about two years. From the end of the pavement to the employee parking lot was 10.5 miles. I covered it in 12 and a half minutes most days. The guy who owned the company could do it in 10.

I didn't have ranging cattle to contend with, and I wasn't driving a bus. Still, with those added conditions 40 doesn't sound totally unreasonable if the road is fairly straight. As for fences, I hit one once. I got a ticket and insurance covered the damage. I approached that one particular corner a little slower after that, but still kept my 48 mph average on that road overall. In your situation I don't think I would have complained.

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It isn't, nor is it flat. 40 is way too fast for even a pickup, much less a bus full of people. It winds it's way up my mesa, then an up and down straight-away that I understand is hard to resist, followed by semi-switchbacks down to the creek level where the adjoining property lies. Posted county speeds are 25 and 15 on curves. County signs warn that the road is not maintained. I used to have the stretch along my fenceline graded and graveled once a year or so at my own expense, but don't anymore. Haven't since that issue came up. As it is now a jeep has a hard time going the posted speed. The property has since sold and all is quiet.

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1997 Suzuki Sidekick 4x4
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I cannot believe an adult is making this argument...

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Gave both the property owner and the driver fair notice, Dude.

My god

By applying YOUR logic and sense of priorities, it is perfectly ok for the authorities to come and take away all of ElChivito's firearms he needs at home for the protection of his family, livestock and for the safety of everyone that traverses the adjacent roads who could be harmed by this marauding road warrior that, when caught, personally threatens HIM and his family?


It is clear here that you are sticking to your guns, but you are gaining little traction here, because you are flat out
W R O N G

It'd be better to fall on one's sword over something else. Otherwise you could be swarmed by people claiming that having a "No ratting out" policy be THE most important and primary component of a moral code, and vulnerable to the suggestion that:

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That by your choice, you are aligning yourself with violent drug dealing gang bangers, denizens of prison, and rogue out of control police, that would never "rat out" known malefactors friends and colleagues, and any like people that need to be caught, stopped and punished after a fair hearing with due process.


You ought to reboot your thinking.

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Did I miss the part where ElChivito said he had anything against the neighbor and/or the religious facility? I thought the main thing was the traffic on the unpaved road, specifically, the speed of the traffic. I didn't think his actions were directed at the religious neighbor, other than trying to contact him in order to have him talk to the drivers. Was there mention of wanting to "shutdown" the neighbor's facility?

MV

You didn't miss anything. I had no beef with the neighbors or what they were doing. Spuddy assumed I was upset with a church camp at the end of the road I guess because we share some animosity towards organized religion.
Only thing bothering me was the speed and size of the traffic on an un-patrolled road. If that guy'd run his bus onto it's side in the bar ditch trying to avoid a steer I'd have been the only one to know it and the first one on scene.

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1997 Suzuki Sidekick 4x4
1993 Toyota 4wd Pickup 226K and counting

I'm with JP on this.

The odds are excellent that this guy has been doing this for a long time. Look at the arrogance, him out talking with the shop owner while displaying the fruits of his theft.

If this was a one-time occurrence, you know he'd be lots more guilty and secretive about it, that's human nature.

He doesn't deserve to have that job. But really, I'll bet he will have some story about it, and the evidence is circumstantial. Odds are the postal union will back him and he'll likely keep his job anyway. Of course if they actually open an investigation and tail him ...