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HuskyMan 06-15-2014 10:30 PM

What would you do if pit bulls did this to your child?
 
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INSIDIOUS 06-15-2014 10:56 PM

Misleading thread title perhaps, but doesn't tolerance require some underlying wrong first?

davidmash 06-16-2014 01:15 AM

Not sure if anyone else watches the show "what Would You Do" on CNN but they have scenarios like this that they do on hidden camera to see what people will do. Will they stand up and defend a person who is being wronged or will they still by and do nothing. The out comes are interesting.

I think the person responsible needs counseling. I think as a condition of their job, if they want to keep it they need to do community service in some sort of rehab center. Burn unit would do nicely. They need more contact with people who have injuries or disabilities so that they will realize that they are people. Injuries aside we are all the same.

I wonder if anyone else was aware of this happening and if they stood up and said something?

I'm glad KFC is stepping up to the plate. I'm sure the $30k will help out quite a bit.

What the dogs have to do with any of this is beyond me. Stupid to even mention them.

Air&Road 06-16-2014 04:31 AM

Hopefully it already happened. That should be one dead dog by now.

Any word as to what happened to the dog?

HuskyMan 06-16-2014 10:11 AM

The City of Denver, Colorado has banned Pit Bull ownership. Other cities to follow.......

spdrun 06-16-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3344283)
Hopefully it already happened. That should be one dead dog by now.

Any word as to what happened to the dog?

I'd probably take it out on the owner. No excuse for keeping a dangerous, poorly trained dog around.

cmac2012 06-16-2014 10:41 AM

The child's grandfather had 10 pit bulls at his house where the attack took place. He reportedly shot 2 and a third was later euthanized.

I dunno, I've met some nice pit bulls but morons are drawn to having a bunch of them and this is what can happen. Not a breed I would own.

JB3 06-16-2014 10:43 AM

I have my suspicions on the story. I want to wait and see what comes out. Right now KFC is falling all over themselves giving this family a ton of money, and what proof do we actually have that anyone said that to the kid?

Reminds me of the waitress and the lie that happened recently.

barry12345 06-16-2014 10:48 AM

There have been a lot of defenders of pit bulls. The percentage of attacks by them breedwise on a percentage basis. Is undisputable. They are not a majority breed but inflict most of the damage. All dogs can bite.

I am highly aware of the temperament of my dogs. I test them frequently. Certain breeds I just will not own and they are just not pit bulls.

No offence to any potentially dangerous dog owners as there are many breeds that are. Their dogs seem to be kind and gentle and still sometimes turn at a moments notice.

It is too late then to discover your mistake. They never considered genetics perhaps. Delayed genetic behavioral effects are common in the animal kingdom as they are with humans.

Most owners after a serious attack claim their animals were gentle and the attack shocked them. In most these claims I believe the owners statement. Only problem is the damage is done.

Benzasaurus 06-16-2014 10:48 AM

Agree that pits are a tricky breed. Most owners I encounter have never even heard of a break stick or ammonia capsules. In the last 12 months a woman in CT had an arm torn off by her son's pit bull.

I read that the grandfather shot the two dogs with a shotgun too, and that the third was put down.

For some reason, I don't necessarily doubt the story. It's sad, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility someone actually said that.

HuskyMan 06-16-2014 11:09 AM

Pit bull breeders have confessed to interbreeding i.e., breeding father to daughter and mother to son. This makes for an unstable, unpredictable animal. I know of a case involving a woman who lived next door to a pit bull owner; she had a seven year history with the dog, no problems at all. One summer the owner took a vacation and asked his neighbor to feed and water his dog.

She agreed, days one through three, she put the food down, pet the dog, the dog wagged his tail, ate the dog food, no problems. Day four she put the food down, pat the dog, dog wagged it's tail. She turned to walk away and go back to her home. She said she got about ten steps and then heard the dog coming for her. The attack came from her rear. When I saw her she had over 120 stitches in her leg from the attack. The doctors at the ER told her she was lucky she hadn't been killed by the vicious pit bull attack.

MTI 06-16-2014 11:12 AM

What if it was a person with a Labrador retriever . . . or gun or knife that did it to the child?

HuskyMan 06-16-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 3344407)
What if it was a person with a gun or knife that did it to the child?

A weapon is a weapon, whether gun, knife or dog. Dog owners are responsible for the behavior of their dogs. I see idiots all the time walking their dogs off leash which sometimes creates problems for others. When I attempt to talk with them about the fact that their dog could easily run out into the street chasing a cat or a squirrel and possibly get run over by a car or cause a vehicle accident which might result in injuries, they give me the "I could care less what you think" attitude.......it is, after all, all about THEM.

barry12345 06-17-2014 02:23 AM

What I find concerning is some people get a dog as a nice young pup and get attached to it. The dog grows and develops some really bad habits of aggression.

The owners seem blinded to the dogs issues. They keep them as well usually with all the liability issues involved.

One lady I know is expecting her first child. Her dog will be a serious danger to the baby in my opinion. I expect her to keep the dog until something serious happens to the baby. It will be too late then.

She tries to keep the dog muzzled most the time because of the behaviors. The dogs behaviors are partially her fault. Certainly not all of it though.

Her dog should be put down. It will be at some point I am absolutely sure. It stays in attack mode almost all the time. She is about twenty three and I was surprised her parents let her bring the dog to their cottage last summer. There is an old expression. You cannot fix stupid in her case.

I once told a woman not to let her child play with a neighbors Doberman even though he seems friendly to the child. She asked me why and I told her there was no bump at the rear of the skull.

Some have it and some do not. Shortly after perhaps a week or two later the dog had the child by the throat shaking her. Fortunatly the owner got it broken up very quick and had the dog destroyed.

The childs throat area was a little messed up but it could have been fatal. The Dobermans with no lump on the back of the skull can let totally loose at anytime. I think they experience some form of nervous breakdown.

You look for submissive traits as well as friendly traits with large dogs and small children. An intelligent larger dog will also automatically guard them if his genes are right.

They genuinely seem to love small children as they are less complex to read than grownups I suspect.

I am the owner of the dog. If I were to act in an irrational way around any children when he was with them. He would even warn me off I suspect. You would be insane not to heed the warning.

He will never hurt what he protects. He also fully knows somehow that his warning will be respected. He is heavy and powerful enough to do real damage if he wished. He would have to be really pushed to act further. If unsure in any situation he simply backs off. He is fairly intelligent as well.

The above does not mean I do not construct various tests from time to time to check him out. I always will.

cmac2012 06-17-2014 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Benzasaurus (Post 3344389)
Agree that pits are a tricky breed. Most owners I encounter have never even heard of a break stick or ammonia capsules. In the last 12 months a woman in CT had an arm torn off by her son's pit bull.

I read that the grandfather shot the two dogs with a shotgun too, and that the third was put down.

For some reason, I don't necessarily doubt the story. It's sad, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility someone actually said that.

I dunno, I'm on the fence about whether the story is true or not. The grandparents are on probation AFAIC. Bringing a child that size around 10 pit bulls. Just whack.

It's a tough one. It's a stretch that the grandmother would make up such a tale but I have a hard time believing that people are going to complain about scars/wounds on a child's face. I'm hoping for the girl's sake that it's true. Would be a shame for a scandal to come out on this.


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