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sloride · #16 08-15-2016, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

You forgot to mention you were countering a low offer on the apartment. It appeared to me the entire post was about lawn mowing.

Here we go AGAIN. If you care reread post #6 and #9. After I reread it I thought they were fairly clear what I was describing, but I could be wrong. After all I am not always perfect like all dems.

t walgamuth · #17 08-15-2016, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sloride

Here we go AGAIN. If you care reread post #6 and #9. After I reread it I thought they were fairly clear what I was describing, but I could be wrong. After all I am not always perfect like all dems.

I'm just trying to understand.

sloride · #18 08-15-2016, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

I'm just trying to understand.

I do not understand, what yo do not understand so I cannot address it other than to suggest looking at post 6+9 again. Sorry.

t walgamuth · #19 08-15-2016, 10:50 AM

I understand now.

t walgamuth · #20 08-15-2016, 10:51 AM

My haggling buddy was supposed to show up yesterday but did not. I was not shocked. I got a call from him a little while ago and will show the apartment to him at 115pm today.

I expect him to hammer me a bit more but we agreed to a deal on Saturday and I don't plan to budge from that.

iwrock · #21 08-15-2016, 12:39 PM

I always ask - "are you open to offers" on anything for sale outside of a store or "is that the best price you have" when in a store, but only if doing the deal in person. If they say yes, I'll politely say "don't want to insult you with my offer, but would you take xxxyyy?"

People are usually pretty receptive/polite with this approach, and I've been pretty lucky with it.

barry12345 · #22 08-15-2016, 12:42 PM

Haggling is not as well established in North America as in some other countries. Still I haggle a lot unless the price offered is more than fair or really far too cheap.

Especially if I feel the seller really needs the money I usually just pay the price unless it is totally unreasonable. To haggle really well to me is a developed art form.

bsharp8256 · #23 08-15-2016, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by barry12345

To haggle really well to me is a developed art form.

Agreed, and it seems to me that it's a dying art. Most people don't like doing it nowadays, and this is shown with the rise of the "fair price" no-haggle dealerships like CarMax.

t walgamuth · #24 08-15-2016, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iwrock

I always ask - "are you open to offers" on anything for sale outside of a store or "is that the best price you have" when in a store, but only if doing the deal in person. If they say yes, I'll politely say "don't want to insult you with my offer, but would you take xxxyyy?"

People are usually pretty receptive/polite with this approach, and I've been pretty lucky with it.

Yes,

In antique stores I'll say, can you do anything on the price? A couple of times on bigger items in an antique mall/store we've just asked what their lowest price would be. A couple times it was less than we were thinking of offering. Occasionally people will agree to an offer without counter offering...then I wonder how much I left on the table.

One time a client of mine was renting a space for a restaurant in a little strip mall. It was a shell and the landlord was to pay the equivalent to the minimum toilets and heating and cooling for the space as a store, so I asked the contractor to price it as a store and also as we needed it for the restaurant.

I broke the pricing down into a dozen or so categories. We met with the landlord and his preferred contractor and were going through the numbers on the bid. The landlord had been treating me very disrespectfully all through the meeting. We had made it through about half the prices when the landlord suddenly ask rather belligerently "What are we doing all this for anyhow? " I said we were trying to establish the amount he would pay toward the entire build out.

He said "well we're just wasting time, I already know what that price is". I said evenly "OK, what is that price then?" He said a number. It was considerably more than we had on the bid form. I asked "you are willing to pay that amount then?" He said "yes." I said, "Ok then there is no need to go any further, that amount will be fine with us".

So i started packing up all my stuff and my client and I headed for the door. It was pretty quiet. The landlord was thinking. Then he said with appropriate respect in his voice "how much did i leave on the table?" I asked my client if he wanted me to tell him the amount. He nodded. "About $14,000." (I kept a straight face but was chortling in side after the way he had disrespected me.)

On the way back to town my client and I could not get the shyte eating grins off our faces.

A few months after that the Landlord called me and hired me to do some Architectural work for him. He was always very respectful to me after that.

In fact he was a great client himself.

I figured out later after hiring that contractor on another job that the contractor was the problem in turning the customers against me as the Architect. He was a weasel.

t walgamuth · #25 08-15-2016, 04:49 PM

So my young haggling tenant came today and looked at the place and said he had more to look at. I guess his eagerness to move in in our haggling was a tactic to convince me of his sincerity.

i'm not surprised.

I guess he just loves to haggle.

barry12345 · #26 08-15-2016, 06:07 PM

No in my opinion. Once a price is agreed on it is over. Or no deal usually. The implied result is basically a take it or leave it at the end of the mutual negotiation usually by both parties.

To me there are at least some rules. Now I cannot comment on some of the really younger guys I meet.

MBeige · #27 08-16-2016, 01:50 AM

As long as it's the right time and place for it, sure why not.

Somebody (I used to know) asked me a favor to get Bosch glow plugs for his 240D overseas. I said okay, here's how much they cost online and with tax, etc. will be about XXX much. I didn't even ask for any $$ for my time and money, and he comes up to me to ask if I can be paid for LESS than how much they cost.

I said sure, but then they'll be used glow plugs if he does.

t walgamuth · #28 08-16-2016, 04:23 AM

Seems fair to me.

barry12345 · #29 08-18-2016, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MBeige

As long as it's the right time and place for it, sure why not.

Somebody (I used to know) asked me a favor to get Bosch glow plugs for his 240D overseas. I said okay, here's how much they cost online and with tax, etc. will be about XXX much. I didn't even ask for any $$ for my time and money, and he comes up to me to ask if I can be paid for LESS than how much they cost.

I said sure, but then they'll be used glow plugs if he does.

In one way or another doing favors for some people will backfire. I had to stop picking up antique automotive parts for most requests years ago.