Dial the police to request a welfare check on your neighbor.
 

Wow. That is terrible from what I read.

I remember the days when we would either call to check up on our neighbor or walk over to their house to check on them. We didn't need to call the police, we were simply neighbors and friends.

Sounds like the neighbor had already done a walk around and couldn't figure it out. But really... do not ever invite the police over.

an old vet here shot and killed a deputy,with 30 years,he was shot dead by his partner.Can be dangerous doing welfare checks

Curiosity killed the cat. I tend to look at situations like this from a tactical point of view.

First mistake; the police officer failed to walk up to the door of the house and identify himself. If he was afraid of walking up to the door, he could have called her on the telephone or used a megaphone from the safety of his car. Not identifying himself as police then proceeding to snoop around the back of the house with a flashlight wasn't a good idea.

Next, the homeowner. If you hear someone rustleing around outside, do NOT go to the window. This is a very good reason to have exterior video cameras that can be accessed from either your television or your computer. Standing in or near a window is never a good idea.

He resigned and has been charged with murder.
 

The homeowner heard someone outside her home. Apparently, she grabbed her gun and went to the window. That's when the cop shot her. Again, NEVER EVER walk up to a window if you hear someone outside.

And NEVER EVER go outside to "check it out". Too many people end up getting shot when they decide to leave the safety and comfort of their home.

Depending on the type of murder charge laid. He may get off. A jury cannot convict him of first degree murder is certain. Even second degree raises questions.

I have seen cases where the charge of first degree was laid but the intent to murder was not provable. So the judge explained to the jury the person has to be let go under the law. The wrong charge was laid. Was this intentional I have wondered many times.

Charging him with manslaughter would be a safer way to get a conviction if they wanted to. I had not read where she had a gun in her hand at the window. It sounds like if she did. He did not know it or would have said drop the gun. Not let me see your hands. The gun present or not should show in the video.

There also have been too many cases where an individual continues to claim something is not real. Or did not occur. Where the video absolutly proves otherwise.

He s very smart in not talking apparently at this time. If they try second degree he may say he saw a possible gun when he told her to show her hands. That too gets him off. The second degree charge. Manslaughter with the maximum penalty though is doable.

Napolian invented the justice system. As he did it is still used in France. . It is a harder system to corrupt than we use in north America. You do have as a requirement for it. To appoint really smart people as judges. In most cases I would prefer to be tried in a French court. If I had to go to trial.

Also this officer had not been on the job long. There are all kinds of reasons to want to become a police officer. It is very hard to screen out those that have the wrong reasons. Plus it is also hard to establish what kind of effect the training had on him. There was a case some time back where the officer was fired for not shooting the suspect. He talked the guy into putting his gun down. Yes the officer did not follow policy perhaps but the risk of doing otherwise was on him.

I suspect he might have not intended to fire but inadvertently squeezed off a round. I don't know what a trial would do with that. Hard to prove intent.

Actually almost anything is possible. With the public screaming for justice. Laying a charge that would stick. Might not be a good option. There would be rage I suspect if it is not some higher level of murder charge laid. Time will tell.

I an not positive but the officer that shot the guy several times in the back. Eventually walked. He was covering it up when someone was videotaping it. I believe it was over a simple traffic stop. I believe that case was provable second degree murder.

Funny how the police department never said this......

"The homeowner heard someone outside her home. Apparently, she grabbed her gun and went to the window. That's when the cop shot her."

Typical change the story to blame the victim .

Welcome back Husky.:rolleyes:

https://www.justia.com/criminal/offenses/homicide/second-degree-murder/

I think 2nd degree would be possible.

Possible but not certain. In any event we will see the outcome. If he walks perhaps a slight civilian demonstration then it is history. There is a lot to the concept of the public has short memories. Delaying the trial also reduces public outrage. It takes too much energy to sustain emotional issues.


If their is great latitude in the conditions required for second degree murder charges in a juristiction. There would also be great scope in the penalties. My guess when it is all said and done. He either walks or serves about three actual years. To satisfy the the public a sentence may be for example ten years. By the time a few years have elapsed.


This short term attention span of the public by then has been replaced with something else. So they release them.


Tom made a valid point. If in defense they claimed he accidentally applied too much pressure to the trigger. That would negate the possibility in most north American juristictions of a second degree murder conviction. Yet it could not get past a manslaughter charge. That has always been the catchall for accidental situations and others.


Actually the lady officer that got off on the wrong floor and killed someone in his apartment. That she thought was hers. Got ten years but will probably be out in three. Perhaps it is just fear that makes many episodes occur. Shooting reduces it. There would be no thought of any subsequent consequences at that moment. He also was on duty at the time so his legal expenses that could prove costly. Should be covered. The civil award the family receives is any ones guess.