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Dudesky 12-29-2020 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo (Post 4128278)
I'm on the market for a bigger tool chest. I've got a mix match of some smaller Craftsman and older boxes, but I'm getting tired of them and want to spend a bit more than my previous budget allowed.

Here's my quandry at the moment. I'd like not to spend more than $500.

Which of the below would be my best bet? I've got all three priced at $500.

Here's what I'm looking at:
  • Mac Tools Economizer 2000 (not ball bearing slides) (pictured below)
  • Kobalt 42 in wide stainless, used (pictured below)
  • New 42 iin wide box from Home Depot/Lowes/Tractor Supply

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...43&oe=60108472

https://images.craigslist.org/00k0k_...I_1200x900.jpg

https://mobileimages.lowes.com/produ....jpg?size=pdhi

Craigslist. Lot of excellent deals on used boxes.


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Originally Posted by martureo (Post 4128307)
I wouldn't as I won't spend a dime in Harbor Freight.

LOL.....choose wisely.Most, if not all, you're considering are made in China.


HF has some decent boxes, just stay away from the low cost ones.

duxthe1 12-29-2020 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by speednjay (Post 4128313)
Not having ball bearing slides would be a deal breaker for me


I've got a nice Snap On box with bb slides at work but opted for the HF box for my home shop. I know you've already ruled out HF but it is a LOT of box for the money and I've had 0 complaints about it.

speednjay 12-30-2020 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by duxthe1 (Post 4128700)
I've got a nice Snap On box with bb slides at work but opted for the HF box for my home shop. I know you've already ruled out HF but it is a LOT of box for the money and I've had 0 complaints about it.

The higher end hb boxes are pretty nice for the buck. I wouldn’t have any issues with owning one. For $700 the op can have a nice setup. Was just saying that having bb drawers vs not having bb is night and day difference. No matter what the brand is if it doesn’t have bb sliders(or bb wheels)it’s useless junk in my book.

Botnst 12-30-2020 07:07 AM

Thanks for the knowledgeable reviews, guys. I’ve kinda-sorta been thinking about consolidating my tools, now scattered in many separate boxes and shelves.

martureo 12-30-2020 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by duxthe1 (Post 4128700)
I've got a nice Snap On box with bb slides at work but opted for the HF box for my home shop. I know you've already ruled out HF but it is a LOT of box for the money and I've had 0 complaints about it.

I look at overall cost.

Sure, I can get a ridiculous deal on a box (or whatever) now. But I'm sending my money to a company which has decided that overseas cheap labor is the answer to their problem. I'm casting a vote to encourage them to keep doing business as usual.

So what I'm gaining in the short term, I'm losing in the long run. I'm voting to put local workers out of a job and voting to make working conditions worse by making them compete with cheaper labor.

The cost of a product made in the US is often more expensive as its priced to maintain that product in the US.

speednjay 12-30-2020 09:42 AM

If that’s the case then I suggest you increase your budget by x4

martureo 12-30-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by speednjay (Post 4128782)
If that’s the case then I suggest you increase your budget by x4

It's why I've waited for years to get a new box.

I picked up the Mac box last night. $450. Original owner bought it 30 years ago for $1,000. The box is immaculate aside from the stickers.

The plan is to give it a deep clean and relube all the slides (with either Door-Ease or Parafin wax). A quick wipe down with some light oil (as a rust preventative) and some liners will finish it off.

I've already started tearing apart and cleaning my two old Craftsman boxes to get them ready to sell. Unfortunately the 5 year old box has some surface rust that I didn't notice until I started cleaning it up. I'll probably end up sanding it all down and painting it. Not sure of the total condition of the 20 year old box, I may end up painting it just to get a few more dollars out of it.

pj67coll 12-30-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by martureo (Post 4128764)
I look at overall cost.

Sure, I can get a ridiculous deal on a box (or whatever) now. But I'm sending my money to a company which has decided that overseas cheap labor is the answer to their problem. I'm casting a vote to encourage them to keep doing business as usual.

So what I'm gaining in the short term, I'm losing in the long run. I'm voting to put local workers out of a job and voting to make working conditions worse by making them compete with cheaper labor.

The cost of a product made in the US is often more expensive as its priced to maintain that product in the US.

I completely agree with this philosophy. It's what I've been saying for years and I try to avoid anything made in China at all costs. Unfortunately this is a rearguard action in a lost war.

Trying to buy something "normal" newly made in the USA, is almost impossible. Even long established German companies are now outsourcing production to China. It's a real problem to try and get anything that doesn't directly support the descendents of Mao.

- Peter.

martureo 12-30-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 4128832)
I completely agree with this philosophy. It's what I've been saying for years and I try to avoid anything made in China at all costs. Unfortunately this is a rearguard action in a lost war.

Trying to buy something "normal" newly made in the USA, is almost impossible. Even long established German companies are now outsourcing production to China. It's a real problem to try and get anything that doesn't directly support the descendents of Mao.

- Peter.

Well, its not necessarily China that I'm avoiding. I will happily spend money where I know I'm supporting good business practices, care for the environment and good working conditions.

pj67coll 12-30-2020 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo (Post 4128889)
Well, its not necessarily China that I'm avoiding. I will happily spend money where I know I'm supporting good business practices, care for the environment and good working conditions.

Which in practice means avoiding China at all costs. And unfortunately that is now impossible.

- Peter.

Sugar Bear 12-30-2020 02:37 PM

Good luck with the new to you old Mac box, you did well. Post pics when your done detailing it.

speednjay 12-30-2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 4128892)
Which in practice means avoiding China at all costs. And unfortunately that is now impossible.

- Peter.

Buying used things make the origin irrelevant. You giving American money to another American keeps it local. The person that bought it new is the person that contributed to the country of origin.

pj67coll 12-30-2020 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by speednjay (Post 4129071)
Buying used things make the origin irrelevant. You giving American money to another American keeps it local. The person that bought it new is the person that contributed to the country of origin.

Yes. And I have almost nothing new in my inventory. But I was talking about if you wanted to buy something new, then your chances of finding something made in the USA are slim to none and from outside it's going to be mostly China or Mexico.

- Peter.

Air&Road 12-31-2020 08:36 AM

The Snap On with Earnhardt picture is a great buy. Love to have it myself for the hangar, but the stainless one Jim chose would be my pick not because it’s stainless, but because of the arrangement. One of mine is very close to that. The drawers are deep enough to accommodate organizers that you can find on eBay that will let you pack it with tools, but still will be able to put your hands on whatever you need very quickly. If I can find the pictures I’ll post them.

Air&Road 12-31-2020 08:46 AM

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