a new E class to lust after - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

engatwork · #1 02-13-2022, 08:28 AM

I watch a show called Auto Modial and they present automobiles from the other side of the Atlantic. Was watching it yesterday and they did an article on the new Mercedes E300de. Sweet but I get the impression it will not be available here. It is a diesel electric that gets all kinds of mileage. I'm sure it is outside of my price range.

youtube E300de

INSIDIOUS · #2 02-14-2022, 08:59 PM

MT says

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2022 Mercedes-Benz E300de Wagon Specifications
PRICE $55,000-$65,000 (MT est)

Like a US pick up truck

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-mercedes-benz-e300de-diesel-plug-in-hybrid-wagon-first-drive-review/

Autoputzer · #3 02-15-2022, 04:44 AM

M-B and BMW build most of their SUV's in the US, in non-union factories in the south. With lower labor costs and lower factory-to-dealership costs, they're cheaper to build and deliver than a German-made station wagon would be. Muffy the soccer mom loves SUV's, and is willing to pay more for an SUV than for a station wagon. So, the station wagon is effectively dead in the US.

Frau Putzer's X3 has more cabin room than my larger 535i, due to the greater cabin height and the seating being higher off the floor. I can put a six-pack ice chest in the floor behind the front seats in the X3, but not in the 535i.

The emissions regulations and emission systems warranty costs for diesels in the US is why the German Big Three abruptly stopped selling diesels here. Land Rover dropped their diesels recently in the US. I think the only SUV with a diesel now is a Jeep.

Finally, there's the Law of Diminishing returns. As MPG gets higher, improving it further accomplishes less. Going from 20 MPG to 30 MPG saves more fuel (167 gallons / 10k miles) than going from 30 MPG to 40 MPG (83 gallons / 10k miles).

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/off-topic-discussion/160978d1610023990-lego-style-house-gallons-per-10k-mles-vs-mpg.jpg

tbomachines · #4 02-15-2022, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Autoputzer

M-B and BMW build most of their SUV's in the US, in non-union factories in the south. With lower labor costs and lower factory-to-dealership costs, they're cheaper to build and deliver than a German-made station wagon would be. Muffy the soccer mom loves SUV's, and is willing to pay more for an SUV than for a station wagon. So, the station wagon is effectively dead in the US.

Frau Putzer's X3 has more cabin room than my larger 535i, due to the greater cabin height and the seating being higher off the floor. I can put a six-pack ice chest in the floor behind the front seats in the X3, but not in the 535i.

The emissions regulations and emission systems warranty costs for diesels in the US is why the German Big Three abruptly stopped selling diesels here. Land Rover dropped their diesels recently in the US. I think the only SUV with a diesel now is a Jeep.

Finally, there's the Law of Diminishing returns. As MPG gets higher, improving it further accomplishes less. Going from 20 MPG to 30 MPG saves more fuel (167 gallons / 10k miles) than going from 30 MPG to 40 MPG (83 gallons / 10k miles).

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/off-topic-discussion/160978d1610023990-lego-style-house-gallons-per-10k-mles-vs-mpg.jpg

I think it is only available in the Wrangler and Gladiator at that. I looked for a diesel when we were buying our Grand Cherokee last year but they stopped those in 2018. Diesels in Trailhawk trim (specifically what we were in market for) were even special order only, almost impossible to find. At any rate, they do not seem very popular. The same engine in the Ram is very nice -- torquey and really quiet.