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Old 11-08-2025, 12:05 AM
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My 14 was getting beaten up, a few functions weren't working well, so I went for the new one.

Sweet Jesus, they practically ruined the Photos app. When I take a photo I want to click the Photos app and the first thing I see will be the photo I just took. You have to hunt for it now. They have a 'Favorites' folder as the first thing you see. I didn't choose any of those photos as favorites. I'm not going to delete them, but they are disconnected. There's no way I need to see them every time I open the Photos app.

The next bundle is "recently saved." Half the time when I take a photo I find it in there, the other times I have to go hunt for it. I want to shake someone by the lapels and tell them to get their nanny state action off my iPhone, trying to make life more pleasant and more cute for me and deposit it in some outhouse in China.

After that is "maps." It has a large flat map of the world, fortunately illustrating how Greenland is actually about as big as South America. A lot of people don't know that.

And silly me, I keep thinking some of the tiny little persistent errors will get fixed someday. For example, virtually all the time when I say the word many, it of course figures that I meant to say mini. I couldn't find figures for commonality of usage, but of course the former is much much more common in usage than the latter. Lately another one that's weird as hell, if I say the word 'standard' it comes back with 'Standord,' capitalized. That's not a word, it might be the name of a city somewhere, I really didn't want to look any further. Just now when I composed this text I had to type out both words, I got the bogus words printed first.

Voice to text is pretty amazing, but I'm hard-pressed to understand why these absurd little flaws can't be quickly fixed. It happens in the cloud somewhere, nobody has a processor that large on their phone.

Now I need to figure out how to callAppleCare. Supposedly I have a one year service in that. I called them once, now I can't find the phone number.

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Old 11-08-2025, 08:24 AM
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Nice rant

Perhaps you can manipulate the settings?
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Old 11-08-2025, 10:26 AM
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That is why I always buy an Iphone now.There is an Apple store in Atlanta at Lenox Square. I just tell my Iphone to call "the Apple Genius at Lenox Square."

It always works and I get a human being who can actually answer my questions.

Try this in your location.

Good luck. Let us know what happens.
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Old 11-08-2025, 09:33 PM
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That is why I always buy an Iphone now.There is an Apple store in Atlanta at Lenox Square. I just tell my Iphone to call "the Apple Genius at Lenox Square."

It always works and I get a human being who can actually answer my questions.

Try this in your location.

Good luck. Let us know what happens.
Phone issues are not local, give up the number for the guy
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Old 11-08-2025, 09:56 PM
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Yep, it is local. The local Apple store. (404) 926-3085.
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Old 11-09-2025, 01:04 AM
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Nice rant

Perhaps you can manipulate the settings?
Rant? No, that was an accurate description of an ongoing phenomenon regarding a tool that has become virtually indispensable to many of us.

"Perhaps" is the operative word. You can spend hours trying to figure out how to manipulate the settings.

Creeping cutesy complexity is a PITA.
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Old 11-09-2025, 07:44 AM
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I have a 14, but I've been holding off upgrading to rel 26 for these reasons. I'm not sure who designs stuff these days. Cars, phones, wherever you look, a total lack of respect for the user. My washing machine talks to my fridge, I don't know what they are saying to each other.
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Old 11-09-2025, 07:50 AM
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I have a 14, but I've been holding off upgrading to rel 26 for these reasons. I'm not sure who designs stuff these days. Cars, phones, wherever you look, a total lack of respect for the user. My washing machine talks to my fridge, I don't know what they are saying to each other.
Most recent communication intercepted was ' he's been eating bean chili, wash the underwear more aggressively'
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Old 11-09-2025, 01:36 PM
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My 14 was getting beaten up, a few functions weren't working well, so I went for the new one.

Sweet Jesus, they practically ruined the Photos app. When I take a photo I want to click the Photos app and the first thing I see will be the photo I just took. You have to hunt for it now. They have a 'Favorites' folder as the first thing you see. I didn't choose any of those photos as favorites. I'm not going to delete them, but they are disconnected. There's no way I need to see them every time I open the Photos app.

The next bundle is "recently saved." Half the time when I take a photo I find it in there, the other times I have to go hunt for it. I want to shake someone by the lapels and tell them to get their nanny state action off my iPhone, trying to make life more pleasant and more cute for me and deposit it in some outhouse in China.

After that is "maps." It has a large flat map of the world, fortunately illustrating how Greenland is actually about as big as South America. A lot of people don't know that.

And silly me, I keep thinking some of the tiny little persistent errors will get fixed someday. For example, virtually all the time when I say the word many, it of course figures that I meant to say mini. I couldn't find figures for commonality of usage, but of course the former is much much more common in usage than the latter. Lately another one that's weird as hell, if I say the word 'standard' it comes back with 'Standord,' capitalized. That's not a word, it might be the name of a city somewhere, I really didn't want to look any further. Just now when I composed this text I had to type out both words, I got the bogus words printed first.

Voice to text is pretty amazing, but I'm hard-pressed to understand why these absurd little flaws can't be quickly fixed. It happens in the cloud somewhere, nobody has a processor that large on their phone.

Now I need to figure out how to callAppleCare. Supposedly I have a one year service in that. I called them once, now I can't find the phone number.
When opening the app, you should see two buttons “collections” and “library” Select “library”

Then you should see a button that looks like three horizontal lines stacked on top of each other. Hit that button, and you should see sort options. Make sure that “sort by recently added” has a check mark next to it.
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Old 11-09-2025, 08:30 PM
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Yeah I don’t get it these days. My gripe is not being able to see my list of apps in alphabetical order.
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Old 11-10-2025, 03:21 AM
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When opening the app, you should see two buttons “collections” and “library” Select “library”

Then you should see a button that looks like three horizontal lines stacked on top of each other. Hit that button, and you should see sort options. Make sure that “sort by recently added” has a check mark next to it.
This story is getting worse. I actually found that which you suggest I look for already, after I first got annoyed with this problem. I found a page with a bunch of boxes already pre-checked and a bunch of boxes with an X in it. Apparently I could have touched them and they would've changed status. I have looked for that page, those boxes again, I cannot find them. I opened the Photos app - nothing there returns a choice of words that you describe. I clicked on the Photos app itself and couldn't find help how to get 'sort options but I did find an option that was almost exactly that, but I can't find it again and I clicked on all the dotted lines.

The iPhone is cursed. I've already spent two or three hours trying to get back some basic functions that I recently had.

I understand you can book private lessons at Apple stores, schedule a free class I mean. I'm going have to do that. It's hard to wonder if that's going to happen. Free help I mean.
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Old 11-10-2025, 09:56 AM
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You might try this - works on my phone: Open your Photos app. Scroll to the very bottom and look for "Customize and Reorder." You should see the toggles there.

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Old 11-17-2025, 12:29 PM
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My 14 was getting beaten up, a few functions weren't working well, so I went for the new one.

Sweet Jesus, they practically ruined the Photos app. When I take a photo I want to click the Photos app and the first thing I see will be the photo I just took. You have to hunt for it now. They have a 'Favorites' folder as the first thing you see. I didn't choose any of those photos as favorites. I'm not going to delete them, but they are disconnected. There's no way I need to see them every time I open the Photos app.

The next bundle is "recently saved." Half the time when I take a photo I find it in there, the other times I have to go hunt for it. I want to shake someone by the lapels and tell them to get their nanny state action off my iPhone, trying to make life more pleasant and more cute for me and deposit it in some outhouse in China.

After that is "maps." It has a large flat map of the world, fortunately illustrating how Greenland is actually about as big as South America. A lot of people don't know that.

And silly me, I keep thinking some of the tiny little persistent errors will get fixed someday. For example, virtually all the time when I say the word many, it of course figures that I meant to say mini. I couldn't find figures for commonality of usage, but of course the former is much much more common in usage than the latter. Lately another one that's weird as hell, if I say the word 'standard' it comes back with 'Standord,' capitalized. That's not a word, it might be the name of a city somewhere, I really didn't want to look any further. Just now when I composed this text I had to type out both words, I got the bogus words printed first.

Voice to text is pretty amazing, but I'm hard-pressed to understand why these absurd little flaws can't be quickly fixed. It happens in the cloud somewhere, nobody has a processor that large on their phone.

Now I need to figure out how to callAppleCare. Supposedly I have a one year service in that. I called them once, now I can't find the phone number.

Apple tech support is free and unlimited. It is not limited to 1 yr.

You can call Apple and speak to an Apple employee about any issue on any product or app made by Apple, so long as the product is not in an obsolete status.

The Apple support phone number is 800-275-2273
You can call Apple as often as you like.

When you call Apple, you will in most cases be speaking to someone in 5 minutes or less.
If you call within the US, you will be connected to a US based Apple employee.

Your iPhone, iPad, or Mac comes with a 1 year manufacturer warranty against mechanical failure.
AirPods come with a 1 yr warranty.
The included warranty does not cover accidental damage.

Any time within the first year, you can buy AppleCare which covers accidental damage and will extend the warranty on the iPhone to 2 years from the date of original purchase of the device.

AppleCare can be purchased as a one time 2 year plan or may be purchased as a month to month plan.
If you purchased the 2 year plan, at the end of the plan you have the option to sign up for a recurring month to month plan.

There are deductible service fees if a claim due to accidental damage is made.
Last I looked a broken screen service fee was $29 and $99 for everything else, including full on replacement.

The regular version AppleCare does not cover loss or theft but there is a version of AppleCare which covers loss and theft.
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Old 11-19-2025, 08:21 PM
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Apple tech support is free and unlimited. It is not limited to 1 yr.

You can call Apple and speak to an Apple employee about any issue on any product or app made by Apple, so long as the product is not in an obsolete status.

The Apple support phone number is 800-275-2273
You can call Apple as often as you like.

When you call Apple, you will in most cases be speaking to someone in 5 minutes or less.
If you call within the US, you will be connected to a US based Apple employee.

Your iPhone, iPad, or Mac comes with a 1 year manufacturer warranty against mechanical failure.
AirPods come with a 1 yr warranty.
The included warranty does not cover accidental damage.

Any time within the first year, you can buy AppleCare which covers accidental damage and will extend the warranty on the iPhone to 2 years from the date of original purchase of the device.

AppleCare can be purchased as a one time 2 year plan or may be purchased as a month to month plan.
If you purchased the 2 year plan, at the end of the plan you have the option to sign up for a recurring month to month plan.

There are deductible service fees if a claim due to accidental damage is made.
Last I looked a broken screen service fee was $29 and $99 for everything else, including full on replacement.

The regular version AppleCare does not cover loss or theft but there is a version of AppleCare which covers loss and theft.
I don't get it but for a couple of weeks, I couldn't find an AppleCare phone number - a few days ago I did find it and they did the arrow on the screen thing to help me navigate to where something needed changing. I was able to get the default photo folder oriented on time and date photo was taken. A few minutes ago I went to the Photos app to find something I'd taken a couple of weeks ago, I couldn't find it to save my life. I'll get to the bottom of it somehow. I have several times in the past, as recently as five months ago, discovered that my phone's AppleCare Support service had expired. Sometimes you have to renew it. The sales person for this phone told me I had a year of coverage. I'm sure I'll be using it again. Hopefully I will at some point no longer be a disgruntled owner. It took me 15 minutes with a guy on AppleCare to figure out why it wasn't saving audible calendar reminder alerts. I don't know what we corrected. There was so much going on and I didn't want to annoy him by asking him to totally walk me by the hand. At least it's working now.
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Old 11-19-2025, 10:08 PM
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My 14 was getting beaten up, a few functions weren't working well, so I went for the new one.

Sweet Jesus, they practically ruined the Photos app. When I take a photo I want to click the Photos app and the first thing I see will be the photo I just took. You have to hunt for it now. They have a 'Favorites' folder as the first thing you see. I didn't choose any of those photos as favorites. I'm not going to delete them, but they are disconnected. There's no way I need to see them every time I open the Photos app.

The next bundle is "recently saved." Half the time when I take a photo I find it in there, the other times I have to go hunt for it. I want to shake someone by the lapels and tell them to get their nanny state action off my iPhone, trying to make life more pleasant and more cute for me and deposit it in some outhouse in China.

After that is "maps." It has a large flat map of the world, fortunately illustrating how Greenland is actually about as big as South America. A lot of people don't know that.

And silly me, I keep thinking some of the tiny little persistent errors will get fixed someday. For example, virtually all the time when I say the word many, it of course figures that I meant to say mini. I couldn't find figures for commonality of usage, but of course the former is much much more common in usage than the latter. Lately another one that's weird as hell, if I say the word 'standard' it comes back with 'Standord,' capitalized. That's not a word, it might be the name of a city somewhere, I really didn't want to look any further. Just now when I composed this text I had to type out both words, I got the bogus words printed first.

Voice to text is pretty amazing, but I'm hard-pressed to understand why these absurd little flaws can't be quickly fixed. It happens in the cloud somewhere, nobody has a processor that large on their phone.

Now I need to figure out how to callAppleCare. Supposedly I have a one year service in that. I called them once, now I can't find the phone number.
So, WHY didn't you get one already ?!?

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