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Old 08-29-2004, 04:49 PM
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Red face Idle Control

Having a problem with my 1984 500 SEL idle control. I have removed the idle control valve and cleaned it solvant. I can here something shaking inside. When I cross the leads with 13 volts I can hear it click. The idle control system is putting out 12.4 volts. Sometimes more. Car idles fast sometimes with the idle control system connected but most times the car will die. I have had times when the car will run find for @ an hour. I hate to install an idle control valve and find out it is the idle control system. Is the idle control valve either open or closed, no in between?

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Old 08-29-2004, 07:44 PM
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The idle control valve is pulsewidth modulated. That means the battery voltage circuit is maintained by the controller pulsing the ground side of the valve. If you look at it on a scope (a graphical representation of voltage versus time) you will see a square wave pulse on off on off on off on off etc. The frequency will be fixed and the on off duty cycle will vary. The duty cycle refers to the amount of time the circuit is off versus on during the period of the cycle.

When the time on is greater the valve will close farther. It is basically infinitely adjustable within a range.

To analyse your problem the best way would be to view the system with a scope. A lot can be determined with a voltmeter. A 12v signal with a 50% duty cycle will look like 6v. The voltage you see across the terminals should be less than a 70% duty cycle as the system only goes to 70% either way 70% on is the slowest and 70% off is the fastest. If you get a big change in engine speed and you have no change in voltage you have a valve problem. If your voltage jumps around the controller is the likely culprit.
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Old 08-31-2004, 12:39 AM
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Idle Control Unit

I would like to replace the idle control unit but I have not been ale to find one like the one I have. The numbers in yellow are 0265101006 and under those are numbers in black. None of the web site have the same style. Can anyone help.

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