Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-03-2004, 02:10 PM
irieite's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 157
CIS-E / KE-Jetronic POWER MODULE !!!!

I was browsing eBay today and stumbled accross this item:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7920035852&category=33553

What does it do? Manipulate the EHA? Anyone try it or something similar?

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-03-2004, 04:37 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Monroeville, NJ
Posts: 93
CIS-E / KE-Jetronic POWER MODULE !!!!

I also saw this along with another one that supposedly hooks to a sensor and adds 22 horsepower at the rear wheels. No one bid on it, which leads me to believe that it is a new variation on the magic "black box" that the automobile companies don't want you to know about. In my opinion, if it were that easy to add power to the engine, with no adverse side-effects, Mercedes would have done it already. If anyone has tried one of these devices it would be interesting to hear their experience.
__________________
M. Sandler

1986 560SEC: 150,000 miles, runs great, but I've got to sell it (too many cars for one man)
1987 560SL: 122,000 miles, used to run poorly, now (thanks to forum), runs great!
1997 GMC Jimmy: Turned out to be a turkey.
1989 T-Bird Super Coupe: 150,000 miles, still runs great. Ford got it right.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-03-2004, 04:48 PM
MTI's Avatar
MTI MTI is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 10,626
Power Module, Black Box, Secret Tuning . . . it's a resistor that alters the timing of the ignition. Yes, VW folks have used it for decades, but it's not going to get more air and fuel into the bores so that you can have a bigger explosion and therefore more HP. There may (and this is full of caveats) be a slight increase in how fast your car gets up to max HP, but it's not going to be making more HP. Rest assured you're probably going to have to up the grade of gas your using to avoid premature detonation.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-03-2004, 06:03 PM
nglitz's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hamilton Square NJ, near Trenton
Posts: 391
The guy claims that his little black box richens the mixture. My bet is that it's a plain resistor that goes in series with the temperature sensor. It is supposed to "fool" the computer into thinking that the outside temperature is a little lower, making the air denser. The computer adds more fuel to match the denser air and viola another 200 horsepower, at least.

Zoom,
__________________
Norm in NJ
Next oil change at 230,000miles
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-03-2004, 07:40 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Southern California
Posts: 2,293
All KE systems have a WOT switch and, with one exception that I'm aware of run "open loop;" (ignore the O2 sensor) and enrich the mixture to near the ideal for maximum power 12.5:1 A/F ratio at WOT.

The only exception I am aware are certain V-12 600SELs from the early nineties era. The second year out the power rating was reduced from something like 402 to 389. The sole reason for the change was elimination of WOT enrichment, so those models run closed loop all the time when warmed up.

Most cars have WOT enrichment, and it has no effect on emissions because they never touch WOT during the certification test, however, EPA is phasing in a more aggressive test with higher acceleration rates, speeds, and use of the A/C. Some low powered cars will probably require WOT, and some may have to eliminate WOT enrichment to pass the emissions bogeys.

No WOT enrichment can cause catalyst overheating if WOT is held for a sustained period. If there is WOT enrichment, essentially all the O2 is consumed in combustion and there is not enough in the engine out exhaust to support reaction in the catalyst, so the catalyst will not overheat.

Duke

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page