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Old 09-28-2004, 12:45 PM
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rough idle/choking when cold

Here's the scenario -

When I leave work in the afternoon, I drive out of the lot, and it's 1/2 mile before the first stoplight. Everyday for the past month, without fail, when I reach that stoplight, the engine drops revs to maybe 200, rebounds to normal, and continues this cycle every 5-10 seconds until I get going again. Of course, it's not noticeable anytime other than this first stoplight or at idle. Oddly, in the morning when I head out, I have about 1 mile drive to the first light, and I haven't noticed it doing it at this time. Maybe something about higher ambient temp and cold engine temp, I dunno. Either way, the dealer said they could not duplicate the problem. Ideas?

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Old 09-28-2004, 01:03 PM
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It could be a vacuum hose loose . I had a problem last week with the engine speed occasionally (not all the time) dropping to about 400 rpm when in D or R which caused minor shaking of the car. When in N or P, the rpm's would rise to about 1500, drop to 500 and kept repeating this every couple of seconds on its own. I was changing some wires underhood over the weekend and found a couple of vacuum hoses had poped loose. I put them back where they belonged and no longer have the problem.
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Old 09-28-2004, 02:09 PM
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But it only happens when cold, and a vaccuum hose wouldn't care about temp, I wouldn't think.
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:42 PM
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What year is your 202? My car does a very similar thing but only once a day. In the morning I drive 2.5 miles to work (lucky me). At the light in front of my office, every time, almost without fail, after sitting there for a few seconds the RPM willdrop momentarily to below 500 RPM and then will level out again and that is the end of it. Considering the car has an air pump and EGR system I have been assuming that this is something to do with the emmissions control system turning on once the car has warmed up a certain amount. This is just a guess of course. But with all the computer decision making going on in this car I have started to call it HAL.

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Old 09-28-2004, 03:43 PM
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mine's a 97.
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Old 09-28-2004, 05:07 PM
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Hate to ask the obvious ...

...but did the dealer pull the codes?
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:29 AM
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No codes according to dealer last visit that would reflect a problem. There were climate control codes, which were used to fix a separate issue, but nothing related to the cold idle issue. Oh, and it did happenn this morning, so I dont believe ambient temp has any effect.
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Old 09-29-2004, 12:43 PM
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I am still thinking something in the emmissions control system, and I meant engine temp not ambient. In my old Supra I would always get EGR surge but only when it was cold. Even if I am right about the emmissions system, there could be something else exacerbating the problem such as plugs or something. The vacuum hose idea is a good one also althoughg benzdude doesn't say what car he has. My C230 doesn't have nearly as many vacuum hoses as my old car. I think a lot of them have been replaced with electronics.

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