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Old 12-28-2004, 03:22 AM
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My'89 190e 2.6 engine dies after 15 minutes

Long story short, the engine completely shut down one night while I was driving on the freeway. Parts replaced so far include: OVP relay, EZL module, fuel pump relay, plugs, wires, cap and rotor. Problem: the engine starts fine in the morning, idles and runs like a dream for about 15 minutes, then it shut down. Usually will have to wait a few hours before I could restart the engine. A MB tech told me to bridge #7 & 8 pin at the fuel pump relay to be sure the pump operates; it does and he told me to replace the relay. Well, no help. I did noticed after the engine shuts down, I do not get any spark from the coil. What condition would the computer not to send power to the coil? Could it be the O2 sensor? I replaced it with an aftermarket unit ($55) along with a new converter as well to get it to pass the california smog last month. Can someone help me out, there isn't much money left for me to shotgun the problem. The car has 173K miles, is it worth the fix? The engine top half was rebuilt 80K miles ago, basically the entire AC system is new (except the AC Pump & Evaporator). I was getting 23 to 24 MPG before it acted up. Should I donate it?
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:43 AM
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It sounds like something electronic is overheating and causing the ignition system to shut down. When it dies and you try restarting it do you get any turnover at all or is it completely dead? If it is completely dead then I would say for sure you have an overheating electronic part somwhere in the ignition or ECU.
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Old 12-28-2004, 12:00 PM
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Thanks for replying, 190eDude.
The engine turns over strong but no spark. Once, when I bridged the pins to make the fuel pump hot, it operated. I can smell that fuel is being delivered to the engine during the cranking cycles; but no spark. I checked the coil after the engine died, the primary indicated about 2.5 ohms while the secondary gave me about 90K+ ohms. To rule the coil out, I put in another working coil to no avail. The new fuel pump relay I got has ten pins while my old one has 9 pins; however the part# 003-545-2405 shows its for '89 2.6, would the number of pins make a difference?
I did retrieve the code from the plug soon as the problem began and it gave me five flashes. It indicated O2 sensor, but it was replaced a few months ago along with a new aftermarket converter to pass the california emission. The smog readings were well within specs except HC at 15 mph test barely passed with a 114ppm. I wouldn't think this will foul up the O2 sensor, could it? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-28-2004, 03:11 PM
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Since it is turning over I would start at the coil and work my way back testing at each junction while turning it over to see where to juice stops. (make sure you let it run until it cuts off first)

As for the difference between the 9 and 10 pin. I have no idea bud. I know they both show up on Fastlane as parts for the 89 so I am assuming that either one will work.
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Old 12-28-2004, 05:06 PM
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Potential check.

I'll throw my 2 cents in here with a similar story. Involved an 89 Volvo 240. Wife would drive to work and the machine would spontaneously stop with no spark. Turned out to be the crank position sensor. Very spurious.

Just my experiences.

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Old 12-28-2004, 06:21 PM
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Thanks for the input. Could you tell me how do I check the crank position sensor? I have not driven the car lately, except to let it idle till the engine shuts down after I threw several parts at it without avail. I just don't know why the ignition system shuts down after idling for 15 minutes. Could it be the computer? I saw two of them behind the battery, next to the OVP relay. Which one may be the culprit, if it is at all. Frustrated.
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