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Old 05-17-2005, 10:31 AM
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A faulity O2 sensor is seldom the cause of high NOx, but HC or CO can point to the O2 sensor.

If your car has an EGR system, do a complete functional test. If not figure out how to retard the timing.

Look at the reduction in NOx due to retarding the timing in the following thread and the thread it refers to.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=833484#post833484

I could offer a more comprehensive diagnosis if you would post the complete emission test results - all gases including O2 and the type of test/test conditons - ASM? I/M 240?...

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Old 05-17-2005, 11:03 AM
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My Results for emissions are....

HC, CO passed
NO X failed at 2325 ppm, 1200 = passing

I did not think the O2 sensor was bad...I still think its the Catalytic...

Timing is computer controlled by the ECU so I dont think I can retard it that easily

No EGR on this car

Other causes for high NOX are:
1 Low fuel pressure
2 Dirt Cylinder Head with carbon deposits
3 Hi Op Temperature
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Old 05-17-2005, 11:25 AM
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Asking a cat to tackle 2300ppm is asking alot. I don't think I'd look at the cat. Using a lower grade fuel than the car calls for can increase nox, but again not that much. The 3rd cause you posted may be the key. The engine may not be geting rid of the heat.I am still waiting for the chance to prove this myself, but several months back a guy posted that his 107 SL was running 1200ppm. He replaced the radiator for different reason and nox went to way below passing.


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Old 05-17-2005, 11:34 AM
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Given that my electric fan was cycling, which placed the temperature in the 100-105C range, I challenge anyone to explain how NOx was reduced 90 percent from the previous test. The answer is in the theads I referred too, but if you don't want to believe it,...

Nothing more I can do in terms of diagnosis on this one - not enough data - too may myths!

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Old 05-17-2005, 11:55 AM
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OOPs I was using 89 octane and not the 92 specified

by the car manufacturer. the radiator has been replaced. I was using 89 because i rarely pushed the car, drove it at 55 like an old lady, even though it was Turbo and Volvo specifies 92 octane on the Gas Cap.

Did I goof? By using the 89 octane? I figured since I was driving Like an old lady, I didnt run the risk of detonation and didnt need that hi Octane. I may have been wrong.

The radiator was replaced 5,000 miles ago. I'm going to change the Thermostat this afternoon. And get some new plugs...

Finally the NOx figure. I might not have got the units right but I did get the ratio right; it was 2300 vice 1199 passing...

The car passed fine two years ago and has been very well maintained...
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Old 05-17-2005, 01:16 PM
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Using lower octane is fine for driving as long as the car doesn't ping. I was saying that you need to use 92 octane during the test, because nox can be higher due to a lower grade of fuel, but it won't change it by 1000ppm. Changing the thermostat might be a good idea. If you are confident with the new radiator, then the fan clutch could be the problem. Most fan clutches that are changed did not need to be changed. A viscous style fan clutch needs to feel hot air through the radiator to function properly. Many fan clutches are replaced, because the radiator is restricted, and the fan clutch is blamed. If you have good coolant flow through the radiator, check that the fan clutch is making the fan draw heat from the radiator.

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Old 05-17-2005, 02:10 PM
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Are you sure the car has no EGR system? I didn't think there were any cars without EGR (after 1990 anyway). Does it have air injection instead?

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