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Old 05-18-2005, 06:03 PM
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I worked next to a guy that had that model, it was pretty dang slow. it was not very powerful at all and was very noisy. I'd keep looking. Have you looked at harbor frieght?

I've seen two types of evacuators, some attach to the top of the dipstick tube, some have a tube that reaches down the dipstick tube to the bottom of
the pan, both styles work great as long as they seal properly.

Correction from my other post : I have a 6 1/4 gallon extractor made by
"Central Hydraulics" has ben working great for over two years now.

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Old 05-18-2005, 08:48 PM
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i'm not familiar with evacuating oil from the top, but I don't really think it would make a bit of difference either way. As far as not jacking the car up i'm sure its possible but there isn't a helluva lotta room under a mercedes. I would think it would be much preferable to jack it up.
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Old 05-18-2005, 08:59 PM
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What's with this " jacking up "?
I just drive my car up on ramps.
It's safe, it's quick & it's convenient.
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Old 05-19-2005, 09:45 AM
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Homemade works well too

I made my own with a vacuum cleaner, a 5 gallon plastic paint bucket from Home depot, and some polyethylene tubing.

Cut a hole in the top of the bucket for the vacuum hose, a hole for the tubing (make sure they're apart from each other), and insert the tubing into the hole.

then insert the other end into the dipstick tube.

Attach the vacuum hose to the hole in the bucket top. Use duct tape to ensure a good seal (although it doesn't really matter that much - a vacuum should have plenty of power even with a bad seal).

The oil will be removed in about 15 minutes (I use Mobil-1 15W-50 - a lighter dino oil may come out quicker).

Make sure to reinforce the interior of the bucket so it doesn't collapse under vacuum. I used a small metal trash can inside the bucket for this.

I also made a mark for 8.5 quarts to let me know when the oil was completely drained from the car.

hope this helps - the total cost is about $6.

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Old 05-19-2005, 02:01 PM
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Did you used to have a starring role in the " MCGiver " TV series ?
Sounds pretty neat.
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Old 05-19-2005, 10:07 PM
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No role on Mcgyver - just 2 kids a wife and a mortgage which makes me real cheap.

The great thing about my oil changer is that it holds 5 gallons instead of 8 or 9 qts like most of the store-bought changers.

I only have to dump oil at the gas station every 2 oil changes. That's 1/2 the chances for me to accidentally get oil all over my car!

My device is real cheap and real effective. Give it a try - it's also real easy to make. 2 holes are all you need to cut.

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Old 05-19-2005, 11:35 PM
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Talking Your Engine

Some of the oil removal devices you've shown us are for "Marinized" (Chevy,
Ford, Chrysler,Etc. engines with or WITHOUT heat exchangers)
They may or may not have a "Marine" setup wherby the Dipstick is plumbed into a fitting to make it the LOWEST point in the lubrication system.
This form of system (because you cannot access the oil pan drain plug) will work without any problems!

The 602.962 does not have this sort of adaptation (The Gnomes of Sindelfingen in their infinite wisdom never intended this motor for Marine use)[They like to use M.T.U.s . Marine engines purpose built from the crankshaft outwards]

'Get a set of ramps ... Get the oil HOT(30 minutes of driving)...Put the W124
up on your ramps... pull the oil drain plug ...loosen the filter cover ,remove
the filter... Vanish yourself for 30 minutes minimum...If after 30 mins. oil is
still dripping out of the drain hole ,go away for 15 minutes more [or work on
one of your other routine maintainence chores]...replace the drain plug to
Mercedes torque specifications(with a new crush washer)...install new oil
filter and filter shaft "O-Rings"...refill with oil...check oil level after reaches
operating temperature.

AND get to SEE the underside of your Mercedes to check for any problems!

"If my engine is happy , I'm estatic! My engine is always happy with T.L.C."
"One of the biggest thrills of owning a Mercedes, for me, is maintaining it"

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Old 05-20-2005, 09:17 AM
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I use the topsider pictured above for both the diesel and the 300E, plus the 350 Chevy in the boat. The pickup goes all the way down inside the dipstick tube, to the bottom of the pan. Its rather basic. The first time, as a check, I removed the drain plug and got only a few drops after using it. The only problem with the topsider is that the larger tube will collapse and slow the flow. Quick replacement with a vacuum hose solved that. Use it as long as the pickup tube can get to the bottom of the pan (both my Fords will not allow that).
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Old 05-23-2005, 10:08 AM
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I did my first DIY oil change through the drain plug.
It was not so difficult to remove the first underside plastic panel (just 4 bolts), and a plastic oil drain pan was cheaper than any oil suction pump.

Side benefit: I found that one out of ten bolts for second underside plastic panel was missing. The clip was missing there too. So I bought a clip and a bolt, and installed them. Large part of what I thought interior rattle was gone.
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Old 05-23-2005, 01:57 PM
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Side benefit: I found that one out of ten bolts for second underside plastic panel was missing. The clip was missing there too.
That is EXACTLY why I do the drain-method!
Sometimes you maybe surprised what you see down there.
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Old 05-23-2005, 02:00 PM
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I think the next time I do the CE...I am going to pump it out...and then pull the plug to see what else comes out..

We did my son's 300e this weekend, but just pumped it out.... he has a belly pan...

The CE does not....so I won't mind pulling the plug to see if any more oil comes out....I know I even have a metal crush washer or two laying around.
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Old 05-23-2005, 02:11 PM
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I use the pump similar to the $24 pump on page 1. Takes 2-3 minutes to pump all the oil out. Oil has to be warm thou.

You have to hold the hoses in place or they have a tendency to disengage, spraying oil all over!!
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:38 PM
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ramps?

i've got a topsider but have all kinds of problems getting anymore than a few ounces.i always give it a try but unfortunately i revert back to the old drain method.any ideas on how i can make it work better would be appreciated.
on the other hand if i was to go the ramp way:

1. do you put the whole car on ramps? ie.4 ramps-otherwise i assume it doesn't drain completely
2. do you fill and install new filter while car is on ramps?isn't that difficult?you would have to put oil in before bringing down off ramps,right?

i would rather suck it out since i've paid for the topsider but any ideas for either matter would be appreciated.
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:46 PM
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1. do you put the whole car on ramps? ie.4 ramps-otherwise i assume it doesn't drain completely
2. do you fill and install new filter while car is on ramps?isn't that difficult?you would have to put oil in before bringing down off ramps,right?
1. I drive the front wheels up on ramps. It does get all the oil out.
2. I pull the old filter while the oil is draining and install the new one.
When I'm finished with this, I let the car roll off the ramps & fill it with new oil.

Done it like that for 40 + years, works for me.
Something about an old dog & new tricks.
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:25 AM
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Try the Griot's Garage Oil/Liquid Extractor. Contact them at www.griotsgarage.com or 1-800-345-5789.

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