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Old 05-22-2005, 08:15 PM
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I am a relatively new owner to a 1970 220D. I have not had to make any major repairs. Recently, I believe the starter has failed. I figured I would pull it out, but I am not sure how to do it. Are there any special tools required? and wehere are the bolts located? I know to most of you this must be quite basic. I'm trying to avoid a costly trip to the shop, espoecially since I can't even drive it there.

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Old 05-22-2005, 08:28 PM
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I don't know about your particular model but there will be no special tools required for it. Do you know what a starter looks like? Be sure to disconnect the negative battery cable on the battery. There will be two rather large bolts holding the starter on (maybe 17mm). Then there will be a small nut holding the wire on (maybe 10mm as a guess) and remove that. Since your model is a rather simple one you should probably be able to remove it from the top which will make it much easier.

What's wrong that makes you think you need a starter? Where are you located?

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Old 05-22-2005, 08:30 PM
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Oh yeah, if it's a stick you could get someone to push it then start it using the clutch in second gear. (If you've never done it before ask around as many people will know how as they've probably done it before). If an automatic, disregard this statement.

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Old 05-22-2005, 08:53 PM
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When I engage thestarter with the pull switch, I get nothing. I checked and I have power to the starter. I've changed a number of starters on GM Products, but I don't see the large bolts on this.
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:07 PM
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When I engage thestarter with the pull switch, I get nothing. I checked and I have power to the starter. I've changed a number of starters on GM Products, but I don't see the large bolts on this.
Your brushes are probably worn to the point that they are being held away from the armature by the connecting wires. A sharp rap or two on the starter housing , with a big hammer, may allow them to regain contact for a few more starts

I am pretty sure the starter is held to the block by the same two bolts that hold the transmission to the block. That is, the bolts enter from the transmission side and are blind into the back of the starter. On my 300SD, it takes an allen type socket, 10mm, and the best way is to get a breaker bar and about 24 inches of extention and go in from behind the trans mount. The bolts really snap when they release and your elbows and hands are in jeopardy when they pop. you'll swear you broke the bolt.

NOTE: Make sure the socket is clean of dirt and grease to maximize your chances of breaking the bolt loose before it strips the hole. NOTE:

Finally, the starter comes up and out along side the engine. You may have to turn the steering gear to clear the idler arm.

For best reliability, try to get a genuine Bosch rebuild. Some of the chain rebuilders do not use a good solenoid and will it fail prematurely.

you can do this, Good luck.

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Old 05-22-2005, 10:25 PM
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I think it will be easier than the last poster said. Starters are a pain on the 300's compared to your 220D. If you can get it out the top, get it out and take it to a local auto electric shop and they'll rebuild it cheaper than a Bosch rebuilt will cost. About the allen, his is an allen bolt and on the SDL it's a regular bolt. It all depends on the model. I wouldn't doubt if yours is an allen, in that case you really need to clean it out well to get a good grip. I need to do the starter on my SDL this week, which they are very easy on those.

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