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Battery ground fault troubleshooting
My battery is dying after 2 days of no usage. The following is what I did to troubleshoot. Please let me know if you see anything I didn't.
Installed multi-meter in series with battery. Steady state shutdown load on battery (SS S/D) ~130ma. Expected normal SS S/D current draw ~25ma. Started with 860ma immediately after closing all doors. Lowered to ~197ma after ~25 secs Began pulling fuses, one at a time. In the engine compartment, drivers side fuses 43-65 No current reduction when pulling fuses under hood (43-65). In the cockpit, drivers side fuses 21-42 Immediately after opening door ~990ma With the computer display off ~814ma (~176ma load by computer display) After pushing door button, to simulate door closed, the computer display off ~792ma. o With door button depressed, simulating door closed, load didnt lower to expected SS S/D voltage. Pulled 30a fuse #21 (central & convenience locking, mirror heater & adjustment, power windows, remote boot/trunk release, driver seat adjustment, switch illumination) from 814ma to 720ma 94ma. Pulled 30a fuse #22 (central locking, mirror heater & adjustment, power windows, passenger seat adjustment, switch illumination) from 814ma to 738ma 76ma. Pulled both fuses 21 & 22 from 814ma to 644ma 170ma o Individually pulled, fuse 21 & 22 add up to load when both pulled. With fuses 21 & 22 pulled, closed door from 795ma to 644ma 19ma load from door open. Pulled 30a fuse #29 (driver seat adjustment, steering wheel adjustment) from 644ma to 600ma 44ma Pulled 30a fuse #34 (passenger seat adjustment) from 600ma to 555ma 45 ma o Fuse 29 & 34 similar in load. Installed fuses 21 & 22, leaving fuses 29 & 34 out = 725ma, door open & 705 door closed 20ma load from door open. With fuses 21, 22, 29 & 34 pulled = 555ma total load from all 4 fuses ~259ma. Pulled 15a fuse #41 (airbag warning lamps, automatic heater system, A/C blower motor, central locking-interior switch, hazard warning flashers, heated rear window, rear head release, switch illumination) from 555ma to 514ma 41ma. Pulled 7.5a fuse #42 (airbag warning lamps, instrument cluster) from 514ma to 114ma 400ma All fuses installed, except 42, with door open 138ma; with door closed 116ma (again 22ma due to door open) In the left side of the boot (trunk area) With the trunk closed 116ma; with the trunk open ~200ma ~84ma cycling trunk release light. Pulled 25a fuse #9 (Convenience locking, dome lights, switch illumination) from 200ma to 100ma. o With trunk closed, no change was observed. After reinstalling fuse 9, battery load remained at 100ma. All fuses installed and doors closed ~130ma load on the battery Battery disconnected voltage is 12.11vDC at 1730. |
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Boy, I'm sure glad I didn't read all that info and then find out there is no car or model info. Of course at the first mention of data I had to look for the car, after all what good is specific data without knowing what car.
Wild guess says the Body CAN is staying awake. http://www.mercedestechstore.com/pdfs/507%20Systems%20I/507%20HO%20CAN%20B%20(ICC)%2010-28-02.pdf
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...LOL
..even got the specific gravity in there. too much data/ not enough data.. |
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Sorry...The car is a 2002 C230K.
The other forums that I frequent are usually model specific. With the battery voltage at 12.11, no specific gravity reading neccessary... |
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At 130 mA, we're talking about 6 A-hr charge drop in 2 days. This should NOT be killing the battery. Also, 12.11 V after a rest is too low a voltage - battery is almost dead. I'd be looking at either a bad charging system or bad battery, and taking measurements for this likelyhood.
Steve
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The battery is a Sears Die Hard. I feel the voltage is low since it had been sitting for a day already before testing.
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