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What's the highest miles on a M104/M103 engine?
Kinda OT but I figured most people here would know.
I once read that the M104 engine was good to 400K miles but I don't think I actually have heard anyone go that high. What's the most miles one has had or heard someone had on a M103/M104 engine? Does anyone have, heard or know of this engine go this high? |
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1997 S320- last time I saw it, there was 261K on it. It comes in from time to time for service.
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1980 500SE/AMG Euro 1981 500SEL Euro 1982 380SEL 1983 300TD 1983 500SEC/AMG Euro 1984 500SEC 1984 300TD Euro 1986 190E 2.3-16 1986 190E 2.3 1987 300D 1997 C36 AMG 2003 C320T 4matic past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350 |
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Larry Bible's 300E should have close to 300,000 miles on it by now.
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Paul S. 2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior. 79,200 miles. 1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron". |
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There is an extremely long list of factors which could vary the answer to your question by a margin of more than 100,000 to 200,000 miles.
It all depends on maintenance, fuel quality, oil quality, driving style, ambient temperature and humidity, etc, etc, etc... According the shop manager at the local dealer, a well mantained M104 engine here in the tropics should last at least for 200,000 miles. But, then again...
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http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=69913
This is a pretty old thread but I remember writing it like it was yesterday. Unfortunately, the car was sold "as is" several months ago. It was a real shame too because the car is exceptionally clean for it's age. It developed a bad case of blow-by. A compression/leakdown test revealed cylinder #2 to have bad rings. I don't work on the car anymore but I try and help the new owner out with advice when I can. The last time I saw the car the odometer read just over 482,000 miles. It idles poorly, but it still makes decent power. The fact that this is a gasoline powered MB makes it all the more incredible. |
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Have about 272k on my 300SE. Had a valve job at 220k, replaced lots of CIS parts, motor mounts etc. Still pulls hard to 6500.
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'90 300SE 298k -300K and it gets put into retirement. '80 300D 255k Purchased new by family in 1980. Had a: 1973 220 (gas) 1980 300SD 1992 400E |
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I have 230K on my '92 Sportline, W124 M103. It had a head gasket before I bought it at 100K, but valves have never been done. 95% long interstate trips.
My '93 W124, Sportline M104 has 254K miles . Had a headgasket, but never had valves done. I bought it on a whim cheap. My indy mechanic, who has 25 years experience on MB said that he had never had to do valves on the M104. So I would say the longevity is very long with proper fluids, filters etc. Steve |
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Not unusual in Europe
My '91 300SEL (104 engine) has actually 610.000 km (400k miles), but was overhauled 160.000 km (100k miles) ago for preventive reasons.
400k miles without major overhaul (bot of course not without proper maintenance) is not unusual.
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256,669 miles on a '94 M104. Runs like new. I change the oil every month.
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dtf 1994 E320 Wagon (Died @ 308,669 miles) 1995 E300 Diesel (228,000) 1999 E300 Turbodiesel ( died @ 255,000) 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 AC 4X4 (115,000 miles) rusted frame - sold to chop shop 2011 Audi A4 Avant (165,000 miles) Seized engine - donated to Salvation Army BMW 330 xi 6 speed manual (175,034 miles) 2014 E350 4Matic Wagon 128,000 miles 2018 Dodge Ram 21,000 miles |
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96 SL 320, 142,000 miles. All original, no head gasket, no trans repairs. Only head cover gasket upper timing seal, and front main. I have a little ticking at startup, but hey, it is an old car! Happy Benzing!
Brian
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'87 300E with 274,000 miles registers on the new odometer replaced 6 years ago. The old odo was broken and registered 220,000 when I bought it. The car was driven by the PO for 2-3 years with the broken odo. So I don't know the exact mileage. I estimate it at 320,000 as he is a traveling salesman for Citizen watch.
Car still runs fine, drove it to Toronto and back for vacation a month ago.
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I quess mine's just broke in at 183,000 miles.
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5 speed '91 190E 2.6 320,000 mi. (new car, fast, smooth as silk six, couldn't find any more Peugeots) 5 speed '85 Peugeot 505 2.5l Turbo Diesel 266,000 mi. (old car, fast for a diesel, had 2 others) 5 speed '01 Jetta V6 (new wifes car, pretty quick) 5 speed '85 Peugeot 505 2.2l Turbo Gas 197,000 mi. (wifes car, faster, sadly gone just short of 200k ) 5 speed '83 Yamaha 750 Maxim 14,000 mi. (fastest) 0 speed 4' x 8' 1800 lb Harbor Freight utility trailer (only as fast as what's pulling it) |
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I have just 245k or so miles.
My 5 y/o likes the idea that it has gone to the moon (229k). No work ever done on the motor. Pulls strong. I generally get 26-28MPG despite a typical 80mph cruising speed, which seems like a healthy indicator. Looks like rust is going to be the executioner for this one, as is the usual case in the northeast. It has held up better than most 20yo cars though. I once knew someone with a 400k 450SE. Pretty good for a gas motor.
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"So where do you get a magnetic drain plug?"
One trick is to get a small rare earth magnet and stick it on the plug. Much more powerful than the typical magnet on a pre-made magenetic plug. A good hardware store near me carries magnetic drain plugs, even in several metric sizes. -Best of luck
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My 89' 300SEL just hit 140k miles, and it runs well, but has a few little problems...valve stem seals are leaking a bit, has a loud tapping sound on cold startup (just started yesterday), it has a misfire at idle every once in a while, the CEL was on for a while, but mysteriously turned off, and just today the ABS light came on.
I sure hope this car turns out to be as reliable as the cars you guys have...i've only owned mine for the last 2k miles...
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Current cars: 2000 ML55 AMG, 174k miles 2003 C240 T-Modell, 202k miles 1995 S320, 207k Miles |
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