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JamesDean 11-06-2005 07:39 PM

keyless entry system 1st gen - w126
 
hey everyone

i have decided to invest in a keyless entry system. I bought the Valet 712t from Circuit City for $60.

I am having a little trouble install it. I have it wired up to the vacuum pump in the spare tire well. There are three wires on the plug for the pump...ground...
yellow-12v (when unlocked)...
blue-12v (when locked)

I have 6 lock/unlock wires

Violet - unlock #87 normally open (input)
Blue/black - unlock #30 common output
brown/black - unlock #87a - normally closed
violet/black - lock #87 normally open (input)
white/black - lock #87 normally closed
green/black - lock #30 common output

I have it wired like this:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...die/wiring.jpg

Now, when i press the unlock button..the pump will cycle..unlock the already locked locks but then keep running and re-lock them

when i press the lock button nothing happends.

can Anyone help?

Thanks

Kris

jbaj007 11-06-2005 09:13 PM

Since there is NO vacuum actuator in the driver's door on 1rst gen. 126 chassis; only a key/int. knob actuated switch (to vacuum pump in trunk); you must use an electric actuator in the driver's door. This electric actuator will be activated by the keyless system and in turn activate the pump and in turn the pump activates the vacuum locks in the other doors and trunk.

No wiring to pump in the trunk needed (or wanted) in 1rst gen 126.

Craig 11-06-2005 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbaj007
Since there is NO vacuum actuator in the driver's door on 1rst gen. 126 chassis; only a key/int. knob actuated switch (to vacuum pump in trunk); you must use an electric actuator in the driver's door. This electric actuator will be activated by the keyless system and in turn activate the pump and in turn the pump activates the vacuum locks in the other doors and trunk.

No wiring to pump in the trunk needed (or wanted) in 1rst gen 126.

I agree, I have a keyless system in my W123. The keyless system operates an electric actuator that was added the drivers door. The rest of the doors just follow the drivers door using the existing vacuum system.

JamesDean 11-06-2005 09:58 PM

i came to this realization and decided to toss the whole project in the trash..as i dont have the $ for an actuator or know where/how much they cost etc etc..thanks for ur help thou guys..much appreciated

jbaj007 11-06-2005 10:25 PM

They only cost about $8.

JamesDean 11-06-2005 10:26 PM

where can i get these at...anywhere locally..if someone can help me wire it and the system...it might not be a loss after all...

jbaj007 11-06-2005 10:34 PM

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=330-010&raid=55&rak=330-010


Most automotive audio/alarm shops will have 'em locally.


The MOST valuable resource for you is a subsciption to: http://pindelski.com/

He has acomplete pictorial on how to do EXACTLY what you're trying; as well as a bunch of other stuff.

No vested interest in his site. etc. etc. yada yada yada. ;) ;)

gdemoss01 11-06-2005 10:48 PM

wiring
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesDean
where can i get these at...anywhere locally..if someone can help me wire it and the system...it might not be a loss after all...

I just did this today on a W116 300SD. It has no door switches. I discarded the vacuum system entirely and just mounted actuators in the door. If I remember correctly (I've had a nap since then) the violet, violet black and red from the electronic box connected to wire from the fuse block I installed under the hood, the white black and brown black went to ground, green black and blue black went to actuators. I think that's it, but if you want me to make sure send me an email. The kit was about $60 and included every hardware imaginable, 4 actuators, 2 keyless push button thingys, and capable of dome light, starter disable, etc.
Rev Dr. G., Church of the Sub-Genius

JamesDean 11-06-2005 11:04 PM

i highly doubt Circuit City will take it back..seeing as the wires are stripped and i kinda wrote notes in the manual..only 4...but seeing as the soultion for the driver's side is only $4...why not .... i just subscribed to that website..its seemed very comprehensive...i will need help with futher wiring... might be takin u up on that offer gdemoss...

thanks

kris

JamesDean 11-07-2005 09:29 PM

im lost in wiring up this puppy. I cannot seem to cut the power on the one line so the other can run...its all too complicated ! ! ! :mad: :mad: :mad: :

i challenge anyone who knows what to do to help :sword2: :sword2: :sword2:

gdemoss01 11-07-2005 10:11 PM

Wiring
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesDean
im lost in wiring up this puppy. I cannot seem to cut the power on the one line so the other can run...its all too complicated ! ! ! :mad: :mad: :mad: :

i challenge anyone who knows what to do to help :sword2: :sword2: :sword2:

The first question is do you have the actuators to forget the whole vacuum nightmare? If not, you need those first. You've got this much into it what's another 10 bucks?

Mount the actuators to open/close lock. Each actuator will have two wires. One wire is hooked to the grn/blk wire the other to the blu/blk wires coming from your module. The rest of it is in the post I made earlier.

Rev. Dr. G. Church of the Sub-Genius

JamesDean 11-07-2005 10:28 PM

so your saying convert the entire system of the electrical actuators? the only problem i forsee is installation of actuators...i have seen the tutorial at the one website but i am a little worried about their placement and the installation of the door planel...wont they interfere?

and what of the trunk and gas tank locks?

I like your thinking thou...

Kris

Craig 11-07-2005 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdemoss01
The first question is do you have the actuators to forget the whole vacuum nightmare? If not, you need those first. You've got this much into it what's another 10 bucks?

Mount the actuators to open/close lock. Each actuator will have two wires. One wire is hooked to the grn/blk wire the other to the blu/blk wires coming from your module. The rest of it is in the post I made earlier.

Rev. Dr. G. Church of the Sub-Genius

I don't see any reason to convert all the doors, the trunk, and the fuel door to electric actuators if the vacuum system is working. On my W123, there was only one actuator added to lock/unlock the drivers door and the rest of the doors follow as they are designed to. The system also works, as designed using the key in the driver's door. Does your vacuum lock system currently work?

JamesDean 11-07-2005 11:07 PM

yes it works fine. i am trying to get this keyless entry system to work with it...its quite simple what i need...but i cant figure out how to make it work...


just want to :rifle: the damned box

JamesDean 11-07-2005 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig
I don't see any reason to convert all the doors, the trunk, and the fuel door to electric actuators if the vacuum system is working. On my W123, there was only one actuator added to lock/unlock the drivers door and the rest of the doors follow as they are designed to. The system also works, as designed using the key in the driver's door. Does your vacuum lock system currently work?

how did u wire up the vacuum pump to work with your keyless?

wait i just read up above...so u added an actuator to the driver's side door..and wired the gizmo to that thing.......any details on the wire configuration?


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