Any 3.0 liter 104 engines ?
 

Does anyone know for sure if any 104 engines in the early 90's were 3.0 liter ? This question arose in determining the value of a 91 300CE. TIA.

Yes, I believe all 300CE's from 1990-1992 were the 3.0 liter M104 engine.

Agree, and all 300SLs (U.S.) from 90 to 93 were 3.0 liter 104 motors. The coupes were 104.980 while the SLs were 104.981s.

Agreed with the above. I looked at a '92 300CE a few years back. Neat little engine - redline is 7000RPM. Very different than the later m104 engines, it had a distributor rather than the three coils of the later engines. I would guess it's also lacking the electronic throttle.

- JimY

Thank you all,,,, I guess that settles that.

Are you looking at buying this car?

Let's see....you have a wagon and a sedan....I guess you'd need a coupe and a convertible to complete the lineup.:D

Paul,,,, as much as I would love to have one of every Benz, I'm stretched a bit thin these days. The car in question was totaled and belonged to one of my customers. He and I thought the old ,,, of which you are familiar,,, wrong badging was put on the car, and perhaps he could claim more value if it was indeed a 3.2. Thanks.

That begs the question... What are you/he going to do with the car??? :) :) :)

Nationwide insurance is going to own the car shortly. It was hit in the left front that took both front unibody frame rails over about a foot. The engine has been hit and the hood even came back and hit the windshield. The guy is lucky,,,, another split second and he would have been hit right in the door, and probably would be dead. He has been offered $8200 for the car and he is balking. The car was not an $8200 car,,,, we have worked on it many times, and had 155K on it. I feel he is being offered much more for the car than he ever could have sold it for. I constantly tell my customers that if their car gets totaled, they will in most cases get a very fair deal from MOST insurance companies. The car is still good from the front doors back, but I would never want to repair it. Junk is junk.:(

Sounds like a fair deal... Those coupes hold their value real well but 82 is hard to dispute...

The guy is a fool to not take the $8200.

A pristine car with low miles would be lucky to get $6000.

His car is probably worth $5k-ish in the private party market.

The prices on those seem to be all over the place. My buddy has been bidding on some and he's bid up to 7500 on one in Calif. 1992 coupe last week and did not win.

I bought another 124 last night off ebay it was a wagon, 1992 300 TE and I paid $6600. and I thought I was real luck sinve the car has had about everything that goes wrong with a 124 fixed or replaced.

I very tactfully tried to tell him that and he is holding out for 11K as he has seen some for sale at that price. I said so what,,, they are asking that, but will they get it ? Like I said,,, most insurance companies will be very fair with a total loss.

But remember that it had to be a 300CE-24 to be a M104. 300CE with
the M103 was also sold in the same years.

Same rule apply to 300E (M103), 300E-24 (M104) and 300TE (M103), 300TE-24 (M104)

All of them are 3.0L in that timeframe.

Best guess to what you have is to look to see how many cams you have
(1 for M103 and 2 for M104) regardless of badging.

br,
syljua

Sorry I was doing U.S. only. There was a lot of great 103 motor cars that we did not get.

I sure wouldn't pay $8200 for that car, as described. Not anywhere close. A local dealer has a newer, much lower mileage coupe for which he's been trying to get $12K. I looked at it last time I purchased an older Benz - almost 3 years ago. He still has the car. That should tell you how remote a possibility it is of getting $11K for this one.

The combination of chassis & engines we received in the U.S is different, and more restricted, than in Europe. For example, the 124 coupes used only the 3.0 liter m104 through 1992, then changed to the 3.2 liter m104 for the remaining years. The sedans and wagons used the m103 (mostly 3.0 liter, though we did get a few 2.6 liter sedans) through 1992. In 1993 the sedans and wagons all changed to the m104, mostly the 3.2 liter version. In 1993 only we could get a 2.8 liter m104 in the sedan (of which I have a nice example). The one exception to the m104 changeover is that 4matic cars continued to use the m103.

- JimY

I surrendured my California dealer plates earlier this year after 20 years, because of increased insurance and incredibble bond rates. That being said, I think your friend should take the $8200 before the insurance company wises up and changes its mind.

Just an update on this deal. Saw this guy for the first time in months, and asked him what he ended up getting for the car. Get this,,,, they finally settled for $11,900. He hit the lottery.:eek: