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08-19-2006, 12:07 PM
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Excellent news!
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08-19-2006, 02:35 PM
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fyi
if u put the vin # into the russian vin decoder it will tell you the engine like my SD VIN WDBCB20AXCB021778 Model 300 SD Chassis 12612012021778 Engine 617951 12 021046 Transmission 722303 02 161756
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08-19-2006, 02:52 PM
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Why don't you simply look at the engine serial number on the block?
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08-19-2006, 03:39 PM
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Maybe because I don't know where it's located... Quote:
I figure since the Euro 500 is a larger motor with more power, the cams have to be larger than the US 420 ones... Now I figure US 420 cams are larger than US 500. Documents I found show that all these motors will swap cams: M116.964/965 und M117.961/963/964/965
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08-19-2006, 05:08 PM
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There's a chance the cams are the same.
Also, because an engine is bigger doesn't mean it has "larger" cams - for example, duration of 3.5 cams is longer than those of a 4.5 (m116 vs m117). I would assume the same to be true of 500 vs 420 cams, since the 420 has less displacement, it has a longer duration to compensate for that.
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08-19-2006, 05:29 PM
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Hrm, I figured they were setup for that certain motor. I know where some Euro 380s ones are at too, if they're larger yet? Is there anywhere I could find the duration (.050" and .006"), lift at valve, LSA, and the ICL?
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08-19-2006, 06:48 PM
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The duration needs to be derived from the openings and closings which should be listed in the engine manual (m116/m117 service manual, I believe seperate ones were made for the 3.8/5.0 and then the 4.2/5.6). There is also at least one posting on this forum that lists the openings, closings, and durations for common 3.5/4.5 cams; your best bet for power in a 420 aside from stock cams would probably be 3.5 cams with matching mechanical studs.
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