560 sel quit running and won't start - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

johnlo · #1 09-25-2006, 07:29 PM

ok here we go one thing after another. was driving at lunch didn't make a mile and car felt like it was chocking and stoped and now won't start. fuel pump is running getting current to the icv if that matters. is this a fuel pump relay problem?

nhdoc · #2 09-26-2006, 07:32 AM

If the pump is running and fuel is flowing I doubt it is fuel related.

If it were me I would check the crankshaft position sensor...there seem to be quite a few of them going bad lately. I think it is only about $50 and causes the symptoms you describe.

david s poole · #3 09-26-2006, 11:12 AM

i agree pickup from bell housing they are dropping like flies.

Snibble · #4 09-26-2006, 02:22 PM

For future reference....

1) Where is this sensor located?
2) I don't see "crankshaft sensor" on Fastlane, is it a dealer part?
3) How does this sensor look like?

Luckily my car is running fine *knock on wood*, but if I were to have a problem like this, I'd know where to look.

forp · #5 09-26-2006, 02:37 PM

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/mercedesshop/sophio/quote.jsp?clientid=catalog.mercedesshop&cookieid=1W30TVH0Y1WN0V9TQ1&baseurl=http://catalog.peachparts.com/&partner=mercedesshop&year=1990&product=F6010-12104&application=000006827

johnlo · #6 09-26-2006, 10:58 PM

ok i agree with the otherr guy. this is new to me. i don't know alot about cars so what and where is this located? but i would love for it to solve my problem. at this point i am very frustrated

wbain5280 · #7 09-27-2006, 12:45 AM

Is your 'check engine' light on?

johnlo · #8 09-27-2006, 07:57 AM

yes the light is on but only when i turn the lights on does the engine light show.

johnlo · #9 09-27-2006, 01:01 PM

spoke with a mercedes benz shop and they said that the 560 1990 doesn't have a crankshaft position sensor

wbain5280 · #10 09-27-2006, 01:16 PM

Find another shop.

http://mb.braingears.com/126_DISC2/program/Engine/107/M117_56/15-510.pdf

L5 will do it.

Test the on-off ratio usinf pins 2 and 3 of the X-11 socket.

More on the engine:

http://mb.braingears.com/126_DISC2/program/engine_560SEL.htm

You're on disc 2 and click on the 'more' arrow a few times

http://mb.braingears.com/126_DISC2/program/matrix.htm

david s poole · #11 09-27-2006, 03:41 PM

the part # you are looking for is 000-153-88-20 good luck.

johnlo · #12 09-27-2006, 10:24 PM

thanks for the info the shop who they advertise that they are a mercedes benz only repair shop.so do i test the sensor with pin 2-3 how do i do this.

wbain5280 · #13 09-28-2006, 12:48 AM

Do an advanced search in the tech forum for duty+cycle. Read the posts and there will be some pics. Tip, 300SE/L's use the same injection system as your car with 2 fewer cylinders.

Check this post,

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=91938&highlight=push

and read post #11.

This is a good post:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=158920

as is this one:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=161055&highlight=duty+cycle

read the posts, study the situation and diagnose it, check the basics.