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SL500 Air Mass Meter Problem
I have a 1995 SL500. CEL came on - checked codes - MAF out of range. I did the following:
- Checked wiring harness for shorts/opens and intermittants - harness OK - Cleaned MAF - Reset codes - Ran without CEL for a day - CEL on again - Checked codes again - MAF out of range - Ordered Bosch rebuilt AMM - Car drove ok for a day or two with CEL on then began to stall. Disconnected MAF and the car ran great - Replaced AMM - CEL went out - car ran great for two days - After filling up my tank, the car stalled and would not start again My question is, before I send the AMM back, is there something I sould look at. I'm driving with the AMM disconnected and the car runs great. Thanks Last edited by fcicco; 10-11-2006 at 10:37 AM. Reason: Scewed Up |
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Possible cause of your issue...
Wiring Harness issue; ALL
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=166883 Have a great day.
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But he said he checked the harness and it was OK.
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However, I have been fooled more than once by these biodegradable wire harness issues.
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Here is how I tested the harness:
- Disconnected the MAF sensor - Continuity check between each of the five wires and all the others-ok - Continuity check between each of the wires and chassis - only one grounded as it should be-ok - Disconnected the large connector next to X11-4 - Checked all five wires for continuity to the large plug -ok Anything else to check? I don't want to rip the harness up to visually check the wires. Wiring to injectors & cam magnets new and in good shape. No codes for anything but MAF range. I tried to twist the MAF connector and see if there was an intermittant problem but that is rather difficult to do and see. When the car stalled I also twisted the wire and connector with no results. When I disconnect the MAF sensor, car starts and runs well. I'm going to re-install everything tonight and see if the problem is still there. Also going to check fuel pressure and get a new gas cap(127000mi). If the problem persists, I will return the AMM for another one. Does anyone know what OBDI code is set by a defective gas cap? I am trying to find a wiring harness at a resonable price. I rufuse to pay $1600 for a harness when it should of been replaced at MB expense. |
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Turned out to be the MAF 5 pin connector. The internal O-Ring had deteriorated and kept the connector from seating properly.When I torqued the connector with some force the car would stall. I installed a new O-ring from my junk box - you can now torque the connector all day and it still makes a good connection. It's always the little things - Thanks all.
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Are you serious - a new wiring harness now costs $1600? I bought one for a 119 motor less than two years ago for a little over $500.
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Contempory Motor Cars - Only MB dealer in Erie PA - $1600. "Are you serious" was my reaction too. I ended up redoing the harness myself with good results. I would like to get a new harness and $500 is more like it. Where did you get yours?
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Caliber Motors in LA @ 800-252-6877. Park Place in Dallas @ 214-526-8701 is another good mail order dealer. Let us know what you find.
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Caliber Motors has them in stock - $550. I will have it tomorrow. Many Thanks.
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I'm alittle ticked off
We have this Forum, free, free, free. We only ask that you support us a little. I can't beleive you'd send our members to a Dealer and not to Fastlane
Thank you for the support.... That's how we pay to keep this Forum going 24/7 Partsman Last edited by whunter; 09-29-2010 at 12:18 PM. |
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Conventional wisdom - to which I subscribed - was that wiring harness is a dealer only item. Sorry, didn't know you had it.
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Phil at FastLane has direct access to all Dealer parts, plus a HUGE list of components no longer offered by MB.
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My Fault
I am the one who requested the info - a member was kind enough to respond quickly and in good faith. I assumed everyone had the same opportunity. No matter, in the end I should have and gladly would have called Phil first - Please don't blame another member for my ignorance. I enjoy the forum and will always support it every way possible.
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