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will70724 12-24-2006 06:42 PM

Draining torque converter?? w140
 
I was wondering if the s600 (1992) has a drain plug on the torque converter? I was thinking about doing this myself. And wondering how tough of a job this would be? What fluid would you recomend to replace the old trany fluid with?

Any tips, trick, or what not to do?


Thanks.

Matt L 12-24-2006 07:14 PM

I'm pretty sure that you have the torque converter drain. I'd recommend Mobile 1 ATF, mostly because of other's recommendations here. I have yet to put it in mine, although I did recently buy some.

I plan to change it in stages, first draining and filling the pan, running for a few hundred miles, then dropping the pan to change the filter and draining the converter. I figure that if I don't drive it too far, I'm not likely to plug the filter with crap that the Mobile 1 might break loose.

will70724 12-24-2006 07:21 PM

Just to get a quick idea, how much trany fluid (qts) would it take to do the pan and torque converter?? Also how much do you think it would cost for a shop to drain the converter and pan and change the trans filter? If its outrageous I will do it myself.


I did a few transmission filter changes on my camaro I would imagine the basic idea is the same right??

will70724 12-24-2006 07:22 PM

Also lets say I used just a "regular" trans fluid would I use dexron III or what? would I use?

Matt L 12-24-2006 07:40 PM

Regular would be Dexron 2 or 3. I don't recall the capacity, but I think it's six or seven quarts. Certainly not so much that the price of Mobil 1 is a real factor.

I don't know how much a shop would charge for the job. I do know that the dealer would charge too much for my taste, and I don't want to take it to a non-MB shop.

will70724 12-24-2006 08:03 PM

I believe the guy i bought the car from asked the mb dealership when we both took it to have the smog done at the time of the sale. I want to say the dealership said $425.00 :eek: I know working at a previous shop we charged around $125.00- $160.00 can anyone let me know if that sounds right?

Matt L 12-24-2006 08:40 PM

I can believe 425 from the dealer, but I wouldn't pay that. I would pay less than $200 if I trusted the shop. Unfortunately, I don't.

I was hoping someone would chime in here on my idea of a partial change before the full change. Perhaps I just need to be patient.

Chas H 12-24-2006 08:40 PM

I just changed oil & filter and drained the converter on my E320. Filter and pan gasket from Benz is about $50+7 qts ATF + 1hr labor @$100. You guys do the math.

will70724 12-24-2006 08:55 PM

Ok that doesnt seem bad if Im reading it right. It cost you about $160??? If so thats not actually to bad for mb to replace the trans filter, gasket, and drain and fill the transmission right??

Chas H 12-24-2006 09:01 PM

It cost me the parts, I do my own labor. If I still was in the business, I'd charge an hour labor @$100/hr.

will70724 12-24-2006 09:12 PM

Hmmm I bet it would only take mb an hour worth of labor, but I could of swore they told the previous owner $425.00 and theres no way I would pay that for a transmission fluid and filter change.

Chas H 12-24-2006 09:15 PM

I wouldn't pay $425 either. Was there additional work included in that figure? It's way high, even for a dealer.

will70724 12-24-2006 09:49 PM

They didnt mention any additional work, and my first thought was damn I can get a chevy tranny rebuilt for damn near that. I called a local pep boys just to get some kind of idea how much a regular place/ non mb would charge and they said between 125-150. So who knows.

So I'm not sure what Im going to do, my biggest fear is that if I did the work I would mess something up or damage something. Thats why I love taking it to a place and watching them the first time so I know what steps to do.

Parrot of Doom 12-24-2006 10:26 PM

See my thread on ATF change. I don't know what gearbox you have but it can't be that different, mine is a 722.6

http://mbclub.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=23969

I would recommend using only MB ATF. If you've ever done an engine oil change, you can do an ATF change. It will help to have a gearbox dipstick. Here is an image of the markings for the 722.6 box dipstick.

Please note that this dipstick may not be suitable for your transmission!

Matt L 12-24-2006 11:19 PM

His transmission, like mine, is quite different. It has a dipstick, and MB does not sell the fluid.


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